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| giallu | dhx_m, I guess thew issue is they miss the timezone listing database in 5.1? | 03:29 |
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| giallu | or something else? | 03:29 |
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| dhx_m | giallu: they deliberately disabled PHP's inbuilt timezone support because they dislike the approach.... | 03:37 |
| giallu | no | 03:37 |
| dhx_m | giallu: instead they pull timezone information from the timezone database bundled with the system, rather than the one bundled with PHP | 03:37 |
| dhx_m | or at least that is what I gather | 03:37 |
| giallu | yes, this last bit is true | 03:38 |
| giallu | using the system DB is nice because all applications in the system have the same time zones | 03:38 |
| dhx_m | yep | 03:38 |
| giallu | but I guess this is not our issue, is it? | 03:38 |
| dhx_m | the reasoning behind using the system DB is solid | 03:39 |
| dhx_m | I gather the main counter-argument is ensuring consistency between different platforms (Windows, Linux, etc) | 03:39 |
| dhx_m | although I'm uncertain how often you'd want to switch your application between platforms | 03:40 |
| giallu | yep, TBH, I don't really care about other platforms ;) yet, if we have a specific issue I can report it in Red Hat bugzilla | 03:48 |
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| dhx_m | this one they won't care about :) | 04:03 |
| dhx_m | it's already decided... and I would tend to agree with their stance | 04:03 |
| dhx_m | except that I prefer to let crap software choose their own destiny than to have someone else rewrite it | 04:04 |
| dhx_m | it creates a lot of headaches when you have what is now essentially a fork of PHP that behaves quite differently to what people expect | 04:05 |
| giallu | uhm. so, what's our issue exactly, again? | 04:12 |
| dhx_m | people reporting that timezone functions don't exist in their RHEL versions of PHP 5.1 | 04:12 |
| giallu | like? | 04:15 |
| giallu | http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.date-timezone-set.php ? | 04:15 |
| giallu | anyway, we should be careful there. DateTime is a new extension in 5.2 | 04:16 |
| giallu | so it's pretty much normal its functions are not in 5.1 | 04:16 |
| giallu | but this ha nothing to do with where timezone _data_ comes from | 04:17 |
| dhx_m | well the timezone functions should exist in PHP 5.1 afaik | 04:17 |
| dhx_m | http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.date-default-timezone-set.php | 04:18 |
| dhx_m | I know it's the old school way btw :) | 04:19 |
| dhx_m | but it seems there is an inconsistency between some RHEL builds and upstream PHP builds? | 04:19 |
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| giallu | I never used upstream php builds so I don't really know how consistent they are. default_timezone_set definitely works on my RHEL 5 | 05:04 |
| giallu | so, if you happen to stumble on this kind of reports, feel free to add | 05:05 |
| giallu | add me in CC | 05:05 |
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| nuclear_eclipse | giallu: will mantisbot respond to a /msg request? | 14:47 |
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| giallu | nuclear_eclipse, it should (when it's alive...) | 15:42 |
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| nuclear_eclipse | Giallu, any way to configure that in the case of wanting to hook it up to a private tracker? Ie, make it only respond on a private irc channel? | 18:32 |
| giallu | nuclear_eclipse, do you mean my instance or another one created with the supybot plugin code? | 18:33 |
| giallu | I guess the latter is doable | 18:34 |
| nuclear_eclipse | Another instance that I'm planning to run from my own server | 18:34 |
| giallu | yeah, I think you can do that as part of the configuration (don't remember details) | 18:37 |
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| nuclear_eclipse | OK, thanks | 18:47 |
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