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| NielsMob | Hello all. | 05:59 |
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| NielsMob | I was wondering how the sponsering module works in mantis? | 06:00 |
| NielsMob | I have already read the configuration pages in mantis. | 06:00 |
| NielsMob | and some blog's about it but i did not found how i need to setup the payment part, or is that not included? | 06:01 |
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| sohailabbaci | HI David, | 06:39 |
| sohailabbaci | i have installed new mantis | 06:39 |
| sohailabbaci | and configured it with WAMP | 06:39 |
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| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: John, around? | 09:01 |
| nuclear_eclipse | kirillka: somewhate | 09:02 |
| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: Happy Birthday!!! | 09:02 |
| nuclear_eclipse | thanks :P | 09:02 |
| kirillka | paul__: around? | 09:07 |
| kirillka | :/ | 09:07 |
| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: John, if come paul or giallu, please talk about not correct wrap text in unicode mail. http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2901/mantis121emailwrap.png | 09:28 |
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| dhx_m | hi | 09:34 |
| dhx_m | daryn: I've had a quick look at your patch :) | 09:34 |
| dhx_m | daryn: I like the idea :) | 09:35 |
| daryn | cool. i'm working hard on the rest of filter api using john's plugin filter idea (with some modification) for the rest of the fields. | 09:35 |
| dhx_m | I was interested a while ago in reimplementing a Fields API | 09:36 |
| dhx_m | using OO | 09:36 |
| dhx_m | and basing both custom fields and built in fields on the same API | 09:36 |
| daryn | i considered that as well | 09:36 |
| dhx_m | too much work though :) | 09:37 |
| daryn | just modifying filter api to use oo seems a large enough task without bringing cf into it though...maybe this will be a step in that direction | 09:37 |
| daryn | did you look into my custom fields/rules branch at all? i know that was a long time ago. | 09:38 |
| dhx_m | I can't remember :) | 09:39 |
| daryn | :) | 09:39 |
| dhx_m | it'd be nice to merge some stuff :) | 09:40 |
| dhx_m | when you're happy with it | 09:40 |
| daryn | the rules were really too complex. especially now that plugins are available. But i had added the ability to display/require fields on specific pages and not on others | 09:40 |
| dhx_m | well I think I've always preferred having custom fields being implemented in plugins | 09:41 |
| daryn | cf changes have to be updated for 1.2. haven't touched in a long time now. | 09:41 |
| dhx_m | it gives you so much more control | 09:41 |
| daryn | true...i'll have to think about that angle a bit | 09:41 |
| dhx_m | then again, it's a lot easier not having to write a plugin for every custom field you want to add :) | 09:44 |
| daryn | yes. i think that's kinda the point of custom fields right? no need to code php | 09:46 |
| dhx_m | yep | 09:46 |
| daryn | so, i think there is still a place for cf although it could possibly be more flexible managed through a plugin. | 09:46 |
| dhx_m | but it'd be nice if all three methods (inbuilt fields, plugins and custom fields) used the same code | 09:47 |
| dhx_m | ie. objects like TextField, extended into other types of fields... etc | 09:47 |
| daryn | now you're just asking too much :) | 09:47 |
| dhx_m | yep :) | 09:47 |
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| daryn | well, i'm gonna try to get these filter changes to some working point today...hopefully i can have a patch pushed out for review by eob today CST | 09:48 |
| daryn | so...tomorrow morning for you i guess :) | 09:48 |
| daryn | btw, i played with phptal translation a bit too | 09:50 |
| dhx_m | oooh I'm interested :) | 09:51 |
| daryn | was nice. couple of issues i think... one the default uses gettext | 09:51 |
| daryn | which siebrand wasn't too excited about :) | 09:52 |
| daryn | two, the default language is directly in the templates which may be ok but seemed a little odd | 09:52 |
| daryn | three...not sure how to deal with variable keys... there was some issue that needed more review that i didn't get to yet. | 09:54 |
| daryn | may not be a problem but wasn't immediately obvious to me. | 09:55 |
| daryn | the good thing is that phptal provides a translation service interface we could write our own to use another translation engine or whatever works for us | 09:56 |
| daryn | and i LOVE phptal | 09:57 |
| dhx_m | yep phptal let's us use whatever translation interface we want | 09:58 |
| dhx_m | (ie. the current one if we want) | 09:58 |
| dhx_m | I'm not sure why gettext is hated so much... it handles plurals... :) | 09:58 |
| nuclear_eclipse | dhx_m: I think the problem is that gettext tries to handle plurals for you, when you can't always let it do that | 09:59 |
| NielsMob | hello both, do you the sponsering module in mantis? | 09:59 |
| daryn | dhx_m I don't know either. I'm completely new to translation so I don't even know what other options are out there | 10:00 |
| daryn | nuclear_eclipse is there a plan for moving to jquery as a standard library rather than a module? | 10:01 |
| daryn | or, plugin imean | 10:01 |
| daryn | i'm working on these filter changes and would be really nice to use jquery for the javascript and get rid of projax or whatever that is | 10:02 |
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| nuclear_eclipse | daryn: I know that myself and other devs were in favor of dropping projax for jquery, I think it just never happened because noone wanted to take the time to make it happen | 10:02 |
| daryn | ok...so can i add the jquery library into the libs and start moving a page at a time to use it? | 10:03 |
| daryn | i've gotten rather comfortable using it lately. would be happy to get everything moved over | 10:03 |
| nuclear_eclipse | basically, it would need someone to a) remove projax support from html_api, b) add jquery support in its place, and c) rewrite the AJAX functionality to use jQuery instead | 10:04 |
| daryn | yeah...html api needs to go away | 10:04 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I'd definitely be in favor of migrating to jquery for 1.3 | 10:04 |
| nuclear_eclipse | daryn: that's why I just made a jquery plugin, much easier to get things done :P | 10:05 |
| daryn | right | 10:05 |
| daryn | same for phptal for me | 10:05 |
| nuclear_eclipse | although technically, we could bundle both libraries with mantis :P | 10:05 |
| NielsMob | ^ jquery 1.4.2 is already out and works prity good ;) | 10:05 |
| daryn | mantisbt 1.3 | 10:05 |
| daryn | jquery 1.4.2 | 10:06 |
| daryn | jquery plugin is already updated | 10:06 |
| dhx_m | nuclear_eclipse: ah | 10:06 |
| dhx_m | daryn: I gather we're trying to move away from bundling libraries where possible | 10:07 |
| nuclear_eclipse | dhx_m: things that come to mind: bus vs buss vs buses, it doesn't really have a good way of detecting what's what, or at least it didn't when I'd worked with it in the past | 10:08 |
| dhx_m | daryn: and use system provided libraries instead | 10:08 |
| dhx_m | daryn: or a user specified path to where the library is located | 10:08 |
| nuclear_eclipse | dhx_m: bundling a JS library is a tad bit different ;) | 10:08 |
| nuclear_eclipse | or even better, we could just have mantis link to the jquery libs hosted by google | 10:08 |
| dhx_m | well obviously our JavaScript code will be bundled... but jquery itself... not so much ;) | 10:09 |
| dhx_m | ah | 10:09 |
| dhx_m | I guess if you're into that kind of thing, sure :) | 10:09 |
| daryn | i thought we didn't want to use third party hosted libs | 10:09 |
| nuclear_eclipse | dhx_m: you can't really rely on a distro-packaged JS library... | 10:09 |
| dhx_m | I don't :p | 10:09 |
| daryn | for security reasons | 10:09 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I don't either ;) | 10:09 |
| dhx_m | nuclear_eclipse: which is why we don't enforce it :) | 10:10 |
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| nuclear_eclipse | it's one thing to rely on libraries with code that run on the server, but distros never package JS libs like jquery afaik | 10:10 |
| dhx_m | I guess what I'm getting at is our packaging script should pull in dependencies if we want to create an "all-in-one" tarball | 10:10 |
| daryn | hm... | 10:11 |
| dhx_m | rather than include jquery's codebase in the MantisBT repo | 10:11 |
| nuclear_eclipse | dhx_m: that's a bad idea | 10:11 |
| nuclear_eclipse | if anything, we should have our own capy of third party libs that we use to generate an AI1 tarball | 10:11 |
| nuclear_eclipse | but dynamically pulling in code from 3rd party repos is asking for things to break | 10:12 |
| dhx_m | or a separate repository for these libraries? :D | 10:12 |
| daryn | mantisbt_libs | 10:12 |
| nuclear_eclipse | tbh though, I think we just need to build a better method of dealing with distro libs | 10:13 |
| nuclear_eclipse | because I want to be able to check out a mantisbt repository and it just work | 10:13 |
| dhx_m | yep that is convenient | 10:13 |
| nuclear_eclipse | we don't want to make developers clone multiple repositories and do a bunch of work to link them all together before they can get it all working | 10:14 |
| daryn | so...bundle | 10:15 |
| nuclear_eclipse | if we can make it easy for a distro to generate a package without any bundled libs, that's one thing, but we can't make it harder for our primary users to get working on code | 10:15 |
| dhx_m | btw isn't there a way to link repositories so if you checkout one, it'll pull in files from another? | 10:15 |
| nuclear_eclipse | dhx_m: not easily | 10:15 |
| dhx_m | Gentoo doesn't have jQuery, NuSOAP | 10:16 |
| dhx_m | and has ADODB 5.09a | 10:16 |
| dhx_m | so yeah... great | 10:16 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I stand corrected though, ubuntu does actually have a package for jquery | 10:16 |
| dhx_m | I'm sure we're not the only web app that would be using jQuery | 10:17 |
| dhx_m | so it seems like distro packaging of web apps is very much on the sidelines | 10:17 |
| nuclear_eclipse | dhx_m: I'm happy to help make it easier for distros when possible, but making it easier for users of our own tarballs and repos should always take higher priority | 10:18 |
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| daryn | so...bundle? | 10:20 |
| nuclear_eclipse | yes | 10:20 |
| daryn | :) | 10:20 |
| nuclear_eclipse | bundle first, allow unbundling later :P | 10:20 |
| daryn | right | 10:20 |
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| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: can help with msysgit and msmtp? | 10:46 |
| schnueptus | is here a mantisbt.org/wiki admin ? | 10:47 |
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| kirillka | how I can tranform markdown text to pdf, html? | 11:09 |
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| Guest63259 | hello just want to ask a simple question, sorry for this, but how will i now what version of mantis i am using right now? | 23:25 |
| Guest63259 | basically i dont have the administrator account of the mantis where using right now. | 23:26 |
| Guest63259 | any help | 23:30 |
| nuclear_eclipse | Guest63259: look at core/constants_inc.php | 23:33 |
| nuclear_eclipse | there should be a MANTIS_VERSION defined there | 23:34 |
| nuclear_eclipse | if not, then it's older than 1.1.0, and I really suggest you upgrade :P | 23:34 |
| Guest63259 | thanks for the tip. | 23:44 |
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