Tuesday, 2010-05-04

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paul_dhx_m: mo?08:19
dhx_mpaul_: hi08:28
paul_u around in 6-7 hours from now?08:32
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paul_in 2 hours?08:48
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X-remHi everybody:) Need some help10:42
X-remAnybody alive? :D10:46
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Guest90830hey, can anybody help me setup the email on mantis?15:02
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nuclear_eclipsebruno_bruno: I can answer questions...15:03
bruno_brunoso, i`m having this problem15:05
bruno_brunoi want to set the email that sends the messages to a smtp one15:06
bruno_brunobut it doesn`t work at all15:06
bruno_brunoi just want to know if there is a known problem with smtp emails or if it`s a problem that I may be having with my server15:07
nuclear_eclipsesending via smtp should work just fine15:07
nuclear_eclipsemake sure you've set the email address that mantis uses as the From: header, your server may not allow relaying for the default value (noreply@example.com)15:08
bruno_brunoi`ve changed it15:10
bruno_brunolet me shoy you, just a sec15:10
bruno_bruno$g_from_email i changed the from email15:10
bruno_bruno$g_phpMailer_method15:11
bruno_brunothe mailer method15:11
bruno_bruno$g_smtp_host the host15:11
bruno_bruno$g_smtp_username and the username, which i understood tha it should be the username to use that email set in g_from_email15:12
bruno_brunois that right?15:12
nuclear_eclipsebruno_bruno: if the smtp server requires authentication to send email, that should be a username that the smtp server will recognize as being able to relay mail15:13
bruno_brunoi`m just using my regular email for testing15:14
bruno_brunobefore implementation15:14
bruno_brunoand i used the smtp that i use in other accounts, with the same settings15:14
nuclear_eclipsebruno_bruno: then it should work =\15:14
bruno_brunoi guess it is the server problem then15:15
bruno_brunoit crashes two times: sending email (in mantis) or loging off from mantis15:16
bruno_brunois there a way for new user seting their password in acount creation?15:18
nuclear_eclipsebruno_bruno: are you running php5.3 on windows?15:18
bruno_brunoyes15:18
bruno_brunoi think15:18
nuclear_eclipseI would love to know why that combination results in so many issues....15:18
bruno_brunobecause it uses windows?15:19
nuclear_eclipsecan you try using php5.2 instead of 5.3, and see if the problem goes away?15:19
bruno_brunook15:19
bruno_brunoi don`t have access to the server, so i`ll have to try this tomorrow15:19
bruno_brunobut i guess we`ll change the machines15:20
bruno_brunoso i come back here tomorrow to let you know15:20
nuclear_eclipsewe don't officially support running mantis on 5.3, although it works well enough with 5.3 on Linux, but 5.3 on Windows seems to cause some major problems15:20
bruno_brunothanks for the gelp15:20
nuclear_eclipseyou're welcome15:20
nuclear_eclipsedhx_m: would be great if you could write up a blog entry about that or something :P15:21
paul_??15:26
paul_nuclear_eclipse: ?15:26
nuclear_eclipseyes paul_ ?15:26
paul_nuclear_eclipse: had a good chat with dhx today about templateing15:26
paul_however15:26
paul_what you mean about 5.3?15:26
nuclear_eclipseI mean that there are dozens of reports on the tracker, mailing lists, and forums about mantis breaking on windows servers running php5.3, causing hangs/crashes when logging in, etc15:27
bruno_brunowhat would help totally newbies like me is a file telling about configuration15:27
paul_on 1.2.0 or 1.2.1 ?15:28
nuclear_eclipsebut it only happens on windows servers running 5.315:28
paul_show me post15:28
nuclear_eclipsebruno_bruno: config_inc.php.sample and config_defaults_inc.php should be the best resources for that15:28
nuclear_eclipsehttp://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=11882 15:28
nuclear_eclipsethat's the latest report15:28
paul_did it work in 1.2.0?15:29
nuclear_eclipseno15:29
nuclear_eclipseafaik, it breaks with any version of mantis15:29
paul_got a different bug15:29
paul_I dnot like that one15:29
nuclear_eclipseie, these reports have been showing up since before 1.2.0 was released15:29
nuclear_eclipsehttp://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=11535 15:30
nuclear_eclipsehttp://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=10926 15:30
paul_apache15:32
paul_+php15:32
paul_right what i need to do15:32
paul_is finish what i'm doing15:32
paul_get up to speed with my list15:32
paul_merge lang changes15:32
paul_then install apache15:32
paul_also15:32
paul_do you use flash?15:32
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nuclear_eclipseI have the flash plugin installed, but I haate anything and everything that ever uses it15:33
paul_I spent 4 hours toda15:33
paul_with flash + php + iis + wireshark15:33
paul_my life rocks :P15:33
paul_anyway15:33
paul_in terms of apache15:33
paul_expect a blitz soon ;p15:37
paul_also john15:41
paul_i've been looking at git in php15:41
darynpaul_ about your chat with dhx_m regarding templating... anything you'd like to share?15:48
darynanybody know why db_fetch_array is returning both numeric and associative fields when fetch mode is assoc?16:49
nuclear_eclipsedaryn: I was wondering the same thing16:49
darynot16:50
nuclear_eclipseI assume this is something relating to the recent adodb changes?16:50
darynit's making me angry16:50
daryni wonder if the variable changed or something16:50
darynso if you use g_db->setFetchMode(ADODB_FETCH_ASSOC) right before you run the query it works16:56
darynhm...if you set extension in config_inc to mysqli rather than mysql it works too...  don't know if that breaks anything else17:06
paul_daryn: mm?17:21
darynyou mentioned chatting with dhx_m about templates17:21
paul_nuclear_eclipse: we've not made any recent adobe changes since december17:22
paul_daryn: yea17:22
paul_daryn: css3 and whatever17:22
paul_he's probably bringing me around to template engines a bit17:22
daryn:)17:22
paul_however, not either of us are sure about phptal17:23
paul_not sure even17:23
darynwell, i put in an abstraction class so we could start playing with it and use different engines if we'd like.  have to implement that interface for other egines17:23
darynengines17:23
daryninterface might be the wrong word...not an actual interface...just the code to connect the two17:24
nuclear_eclipseglue layer :P17:24
darynthat's it17:24
daryn:)17:24
daryni added some calls for smarty but didn't load the library17:25
darynanyone look at my branch yet?17:25
nuclear_eclipseI started to17:25
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nuclear_eclipsenever got the chance for a complete look though17:25
daryni've got some updates i'm working on to add a layout template and functions to MantisTemplate replacing html_api calls17:26
nuclear_eclipseok17:26
darynhopefully will push this evening17:26
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nuclear_eclipsetbh, even though I'm  not too fond of phptal, having a working implementation is a lot more important IMO17:27
darynyeah17:27
darynwell, i think it won't be too difficult to switch engines if people decide they don't like phptal17:27
darynand if we really wanted, could use whatever people want to use...17:28
darynconfigure phptal, smarty, twig, whatever17:28
darynexcept for straight php...i'm gonna break that on purpose17:28
daryn:D17:28
nuclear_eclipsehehe17:29
nuclear_eclipsebeyond actually getting something implemented, my biggest concern beyond that is finding a way to either maintain the existing ability for plugins to echo() what they want for appropriate events, or a clear path for them to move from echo() to templates17:30
darynright17:31
darynmy layout just uses buffering to capture and assign to the template17:31
nuclear_eclipseso I'll have to wait for you to get that piece into place before I can make a final judgement =\17:31
nuclear_eclipseok17:32
darynbut there are some things that should really change17:32
darynlike printing bracketed links17:32
nuclear_eclipseI'd def love to see bracket links converted into gradient buttons or something of the sort, even if it's just changing the output of print_bracket_link and then adding some fancy CSS17:33
darynblah17:33
nuclear_eclipsehehe17:33
darynno print_bracket_link17:33
darynadd a class and style it17:34
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nuclear_eclipseand if we really go through with such sweeping changes like this, I think it might be worthwhile considering a major version jump as justification for *everything in our API has changed* :P17:35
darynya17:35
daryn1.317:35
daryn2.017:35
nuclear_eclipsewell, my point was make print_bracker_link() output <a class="fancy_link" href="...">foo</a>17:35
daryni know...and i'll shoot you17:36
nuclear_eclipsethat would at least allow plugins that already print bracket links to continue working the same...17:36
darynyeah17:36
daryni'm not doing away with those yet...just replacing current calls17:36
darynsame for html_api17:37
darynthe api is still there. just nothing internal will use it17:37
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daryn...eventually17:37
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