Wednesday, 2010-06-30

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nuclear_eclipsedhx_m: around?10:51
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RB__hello all11:44
RB__looking for some help on configuration11:44
darynRB__ post your question, if someone is around who knows, they'll answer11:45
RB__Ok, Trying to understand the Configuration Tool inside Mantis (Database Configuration) finally moved our old instance to te new. Cant anywhere on how to use the configuration tool correctly. trying to modify severity_enum_string for a project11:48
RB__from what i did before i had to modfiy a couple of places to change the severity11:48
darynyou can still do that in config_inc.php unless you need project specific severities11:49
RB__i do need to do it project specfic11:52
darynok...i'm not as familiar with that11:55
darynthe two variables are g_severity_enum_string and s_severity_enum_string - s_* is the localization string11:56
RB__yeah thats what i changed before, but i cant define either g or s in the configuartor12:01
RB__verifying now though12:01
RB__Configuration option "s_severity_enum_string" not found.12:02
RB__Configuration option "g_severity_enum_string" not found.12:02
RB__Configuration option "$s_severity_enum_string" not found.12:02
daryni think it defaults to add the g_ . the s_ might have to be done in the custom_strings_inc file as an array or something...not sure12:02
RB__ok, thanks for your help,12:03
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paulrmoo14:33
nuclear_eclipsehi paulr 14:33
paulrlo14:33
paulrtbh14:35
paulrre github14:35
paulrgit is shared14:35
paulrso it doesn't matter where we mirror to14:35
paulronly thing i'd say is it makes some sense to push to git.mantisbt.org14:36
nuclear_eclipsewell, the point is to still have a canonical place to point everybody at14:36
paulrcan always direct users to a github mirror14:36
nuclear_eclipseand my point is to do away with git.mantisbt.org14:36
paulrwe've still got git.mantisforge.org at that point mirroring stuff14:36
paulrI think whilst github is nice - we dont want users downloading raw zips of tags14:39
nuclear_eclipsewell, no, you can turn off that page14:39
nuclear_eclipseit just defaults to being on14:40
darynwhy do we care?14:40
paulrfrom my pov, I actually find the gitweb interface easier to use14:40
paulrbut that's a user thing14:40
paulrdaryn: as release builds != raw repo14:40
nuclear_eclipsedaryn: for one thing, downloading a zip of a tag means it comes with no built documentation for one thing14:40
darynyeah but...that's not really our problem is it?  i mean if the full deal is there and someone wants it without...who cares?14:41
nuclear_eclipseright14:41
paulrwe have to support it though to an extent14:41
paulranyway14:41
nuclear_eclipsefwiw, users could pull snapshots of anything from gitweb14:41
daryncan't we point gitweb at github repos?14:41
nuclear_eclipseno14:41
nuclear_eclipsegitweb requires looking at the actual repo data14:42
paulrI'm not really sure what driver is to kill git.mantisbt.org14:42
paulrfor commiting at least14:42
paulrI mean, I can tend to commit atm when i need without incidence14:42
nuclear_eclipsepaulr: it's not easy to manage if you want to add new developers14:42
nuclear_eclipsewell, compared to github, it's not easy :P14:43
paulrand we get new dev's how often? :P14:43
nuclear_eclipseand if we decide to add new repos, it's also easier to do all that through git14:43
nuclear_eclipseand on top of all that, like I said in the email, using github as our primary repo means there's an official method for maintaining your own fork and submitting pull requests14:44
paulrwell two method's as you can currently create a fork on git.mantisforge.org14:46
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nuclear_eclipseyes, but requiring users to fork on mantisforge is a) not obvious or as simple/straightforward, and b) we seem to consistently have issues regarding whether mantisforge is actually usable at any given time14:47
paulrwell, only when server itself died ;p14:48
nuclear_eclipsenot just then... 14:48
darynright...on multiple occasions14:48
darynand finding you was the only resolution14:48
nuclear_eclipsethere've been a lot of cases where it looks like it was working, but we couldn't push to it14:48
paulriirc that was a before server got upgraded14:49
paulrI dont recall any issues since then ;p14:49
paulrbefore it used to sometimes run out of ram trying to run unit tests etc14:49
darynbut we're still dependent on you14:49
darynwhereas github is a large managed service...that is free14:50
leetcode_06429I have a question with source control integration: I just installed the source integration plugins (meta, source control integration, subversion, websvn). The configuration page is accessible but I cannot find the link for setting up a repository. Can anybody give me a hint, please?14:50
nuclear_eclipseleetcode_06429: if you have admin access, it's on the repositories page14:50
paulrdaryn: I wasn't the only person with a logon to that box at one point14:50
paulrdaryn: I've kinda said anyone can have a logon14:51
nuclear_eclipsepaulr: you're still the only one that actually understands how any of that stuff works14:51
paulrthat might be more true14:51
nuclear_eclipsejust because we have a logon doesn't mean we can fix things14:51
leetcode_06429nuclear_eclipse: Thank you! I have admin acces but where can I find the repositories page?14:51
darynok...i didn't really know that but i still wouldn't want to have to troubleshoot it if i don't have to14:51
paulrthe main reason i'd be against changing the core git.mantisbt.org is14:52
paulrthat it breaks existing checkout's14:52
nuclear_eclipseleetcode_06429: if the plugin sare installed correctly, it adds a link in the main menu14:52
nuclear_eclipsepaulr: that's a rather worthless reason IMO :P14:52
paulrnot really14:52
nuclear_eclipseit's a single git command to change the origin remote14:52
darynpaulr: it isn't that hard to set up a new remote14:52
leetcode_06429nuclear_eclipse: Thanks a lot, I just found it!14:53
nuclear_eclipseleetcode_06429: you're welcome14:53
paulrfrom the point of view of http://git.mantisforge.org/14:53
darynplus you can use HG with github14:53
daryn:P14:53
paulrusing github probably helps as git.mantisbt.org can be less stable14:53
paulrfor pulling14:53
darynnuclear_eclipse: is it possible to point git.mantisforge.org at github?14:54
paulryou mean git.mantisbt.org?14:54
darynyeah14:54
darynthat14:54
nuclear_eclipseyeah, we can easily do some redirects14:54
paulrpoint git.mantisbt.org to git.mantisforge.org14:54
paulrhave git.mantisforge.org mirror from github14:54
paulrallow bi-directional commits from git.mantisforge.org back to github14:55
nuclear_eclipseI'd rather point git.mantisbt.org at github if that's going to be the canonical repository14:55
nuclear_eclipsebi-directional commits between two repos would just cause *lots* of headaches...14:55
nuclear_eclipseI'm fine with mantisforge being a read only mirror and forking point like it already is, but allowing people to commit to either place will just be insane to set up14:56
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paulrnuclear_eclipse: GRR15:41
paulrThere was a problem serving the requested page.15:41
paulrUsually this means that an unexpected error happened while15:41
paulrprocessing your request. Here's what you can try next:15:41
paulrwhen trying to do an issue search15:41
nuclear_eclipsewhy'd you break it?15:42
paulrI tried to do a search in github :/15:42
nuclear_eclipsean issue search on github?15:43
paulrthink so15:43
paulrdunno!15:43
nuclear_eclipse /shrug15:43
paulrpos15:43
paulr:)15:43
nuclear_eclipsenever really did any searching from their system15:43
paulrto be fair, not sure i've had it error before :P15:43
nuclear_eclipseI know they utilize a lot of caching, so I wonder if the search took too long and the cache killled the request15:44
darynwhat were you searching for?15:44
paulrwindows15:44
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daryni searched windows and got results15:45
paulrwhat time is it where dhx is ?16:36
daryn6:40 am ish i think...that's sydney anyway not sure what city he's in16:41
paulram or pm?17:07
darynnote the 'am' after 6:40 :P17:08
paulr:(17:09
darynhe was up late too. we were chatting around 3am his time17:10
paulrthat was 3 hours ago?17:15
darynsomething like that17:16
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RB__going to check to see if anybody new can answer my question from this morning18:54
RB__is it possible to use the "Database Configuartor" in mantis to change the "severity_enum_string" at a project level18:55
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hellonullhey all. working on configuring my first mantis installation and need a bit of help. i'm looking to disable the "reproducibility," "severity," and "steps to reproduce" fields since they aren't applicable to the purpose for which we are using mantis. is there a way to take care of each of these with a single config option? for severity, i came across $g_severity_enum_string... i tried values of "", '', and NULL, but the field's dropd21:31
darynhellonull: are you using 1.2?21:34
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hellonulldaryn: yes, 1.2.122:56
darynthere are several variables to select which fields to display on which pages but I don't think there is a way to completely disable a field in all locations with one change23:04
darynthe easiest is probably to set these g_bug_report_page_fields, g_bug_view_page_fields, g_bug_print_page_fields, g_bug_update_page_fields,g_bug_change_status_page_fields23:06
darynthe complete list of fields for each page is in config_defaults_inc.php23:07
daryncopy the variables into config_inc.php and remove any fields you don't want23:07
darynconfig_inc.php overrides values in config_defaults_inc.php23:07
hellonullsounds good, thanks daryn23:18
darynyw23:18
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