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kirillkaaround?08:53
kirillkanuclear_eclipse: ping08:54
nuclear_eclipsehi kirillka 08:56
kirillkanuclear_eclipse: mo. one question08:58
kirillkaCan I in config set translate for custom fields?08:58
nuclear_eclipsenot that I know of, custom fields are the one spot where we don't use lang_api to output the text, so without some additional support in the core or via plugin, I don't think it is possible08:59
nuclear_eclipseI have a meeting though08:59
nuclear_eclipsebbiab08:59
kirillkaok08:59
nuclear_eclipseback09:19
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kirillkaHow unite plugins in github for mantisbt?09:31
kirillkaor it's not possible09:31
nuclear_eclipsekirillka: we're not sure yet09:34
kirillkaok09:34
nuclear_eclipsepaul is investigating using gitorious instead of gitweb for mantisforge, but nothing is set in stone yet09:35
kirillkanuclear_eclipse: where Paul. I don't see him too many times09:36
nuclear_eclipsehe only pops in for about 10 minutes at a time, it seems... =\09:37
nuclear_eclipseit's really frustrating trying to dea lwith him lately..09:37
kirillkanuclear_eclipse: can you add in wiki http://www.mantisbt.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10936&start=009:39
kirillkaTrac to mantis converter09:39
nuclear_eclipseI can't add pages to the wiki for whatever reason09:40
nuclear_eclipseI hate the wiki we have right now09:40
kirillka:)09:41
kirillkanuclear_eclipse: I think you need reformat of structure of your site09:42
nuclear_eclipsehow?09:43
kirillkaunused part remove. needed change for integration all in one?09:44
nuclear_eclipseI'm not understanding what you mean09:44
kirillkaYou have: blog, wiki, forum, site, git, mantisbt. All not use one-place (united) auth.09:45
kirillkawiki don't update09:46
nuclear_eclipseoh, you mean for mantisbt.org?09:46
kirillkayes09:46
kirillkaDokuWiki version: Release 2006-03-0909:46
nuclear_eclipseyeah, I would agree09:47
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kirillkanuclear_eclipse: Oh, I did this http://www.mantisbt.org/wiki/doku.php/mantisbt:related_tools09:50
kirillkanuclear_eclipse: Convertation - it's right word or not?09:50
nuclear_eclipseConversion09:51
kirillkanuclear_eclipse: fix09:51
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atrolkirrilka I added trac2mantis to wiki some time ago http://www.mantisbt.org/wiki/doku.php/mantisbt:mantis_recipies09:57
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kirillkaatrol: hi10:01
kirillkaatrol: I thik in related tools mast be too?10:01
kirillkathink*10:02
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alexsanderI have an 1.1.8 and a 1.2.1 in the same /var/www with different DB names... the 1.1.8 sends emails normally but the 1.2.1 don't... is there some config I need to change?10:38
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alexsanderis there any known email problem with 1.2.1 ?!?11:15
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alexsanderwhere do I find a 1.2.2 release?11:29
alexsanderi've seen http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1186211:29
killefizalexsander: you have to read that message as "it has been fixed in the branch that will become 1.2.2" - 1.2.2 isn't released yet11:31
alexsanderkillefiz, so there's a patch or something?11:32
alexsanderI also can't make it send emails...11:33
alexsanderI have an 1.1.8 and a 1.2.1 in the same /var/www with different DB names... the 1.1.8 sends emails normally but the 1.2.1 don't... is there some config I need to change?11:33
killefizalexsander: there are diffs on the page you linked to - they're under "Related changesets"11:34
killefizwrt. emails - no idea. My mantis 1.2.1 emails just fine11:34
alexsanderkillefiz, ok11:34
alexsanderkillefiz, what I think it's weird is 1.1.8 emails fine, but 1.2.1 don't11:36
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L0rdsAli3nnuclear_eclipse: please fix the gitweb plugin :)12:19
L0rdsAli3nor could you at least give a estimation when it will be fixed?12:25
nuclear_eclipseL0rdsAli3n: I'm very busy with more projects than Mantis, so at the earliest, maybe in a couple weeks..12:29
L0rdsAli3nhmmm... What a bummer!12:29
L0rdsAli3nIt's so a creat idea and as you said it will most propably be just a little fix to get it working with the new gitweb Version ...12:30
nuclear_eclipseL0rdsAli3n: it will require research, planning, and testing as well, to make sure that I don't break compatibility with older version of gitweb too, so it's not "just a little fix"12:31
L0rdsAli3nI see ...12:32
alexsanderhow could I debug the email feature?12:34
alexsanderI have an 1.1.8 and a 1.2.1 in the same /var/www with different DB names... the 1.1.8 sends emails normally but the 1.2.1 don't... is there some config I need to change?12:34
alexsanderL0rdsAli3n, nuclear_eclipse any ideas?12:34
nuclear_eclipsealexsander: there is a config option to enable logging for notifications, and that may help to figure it out, but most likely, the change stems from some config changes between 1.1.x and 1.2.x dealing with the new version of phpMailer12:35
L0rdsAli3nworked just fine for me and my mantis v1.2.112:35
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, what changes?12:36
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, you see I have the same PHP for both installations, in the same /var/www -- only the MySQL database is different, of course12:36
nuclear_eclipseI don't know off hand, but check the two versions of config_defaults_inc.php for phpMailer related settings12:36
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, thanks, I'll take a look12:38
nuclear_eclipsealexsander: also of note, if you happen to be trying to use SMTP with Gmail, there was an email on the mantisbt-help list a couple months ago describing how to configure that properly in 1.2.x12:39
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, that's not the case, I'm using localhost's mailer12:40
nuclear_eclipseok12:40
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alexsandernuclear_eclipse, I'm using an internal email in format "user@server" without dots12:49
alexsanderchecking "mailq" it's always empty but nothing is delivered12:50
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nuclear_eclipse< alexsander> nuclear_eclipse, I'm using an internal email in format "user@server"13:48
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, is that a problem?13:49
nuclear_eclipseI wonder if phpMailer is somehow dropping those emails 13:49
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, but they work for 1.1.8 in the same box13:49
nuclear_eclipsealexsander: unfortunately, I don't really know anything about how MantisBT operates with phpMailer13:49
nuclear_eclipsewell, we updated the version of phpMailer in 1.2.x, so that is probably where the breaking change is13:50
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, but it's not working even out-of-the-box13:52
nuclear_eclipsealexsander: can you try out of the box using a non-local email address, like gmail or something?13:53
paulrevening john13:54
paulrhow long you around for?13:54
nuclear_eclipseI'll be at work for a couple more hours13:54
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, I'll try again13:54
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alexsandernuclear_eclipse, nothing!13:58
nuclear_eclipse=\  sounds like somehow phpMailer isn't getting configured correctly...13:59
nuclear_eclipseare you using SMTP to a local server, or sendmail?13:59
alexsanderits the "localhost" configuration, straight with mail14:00
nuclear_eclipseoh14:00
nuclear_eclipsePHPMAILER_METHOD_MAIL?14:00
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, yes (just checked, it's the default)14:05
alexsanderit's 0 on the 1.1.8 installation14:05
nuclear_eclipsehmm14:06
nuclear_eclipsethen I really have no clue, other than to check logs from your mail client, and see if it ssays anything about rejecting a HELO or aything of that sort14:07
nuclear_eclipseperhaps your local MTA is rejecting relay for these emails or something?14:07
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, I'll check that14:08
nuclear_eclipseI know that my server's MTA will rejecting relaying messages from domains it doesn't control, including "localhost"14:09
nuclear_eclipseand if you haven't overridden the default from addresses that Mantis uses, it may be rejecting those emails14:09
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, but why it does work for the 1.1.8 mantis in the same box?14:09
nuclear_eclipsemaybe the old phpmailer version didn't set the same email headers, so maybe it didn't trip your MTA's rejection circuits?14:10
nuclear_eclipseI know that email headers is one of the topics that prompted us to move to the newer phpMailer14:11
nuclear_eclipseI justdon't remember what exactly the update fixed, and I don't know how we actually use phpMailer... :P14:11
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, where are usually stored the MTA's rejection logs?14:14
nuclear_eclipsealexsander: usually /var/log/mail.log, or /var/log/mail.err14:17
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alexsandernuclear_eclipse, just did a test: I resetted my password on 1.1.8 (in the same box) and it worked, wrote in /var/log/mail.log a line ending with "status=sent (delivered to mailbox)"14:26
alexsander1.2.1 is writing nothing there14:27
nuclear_eclipsealexsander: then I don't really have any idea, other than using xdebug to trace through the code and figure out where it's deciding not to send an email... =\14:27
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, I'll check the config again, with a "tail -f " on mail.log14:29
alexsanderwould you suggest I use a nightly build instead of 1.2.1 ?15:00
nuclear_eclipsealexsander: it probably won't fix your problem, but it might be worth a try just in case15:01
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, first I'll drop the 1.2.1 database and install it again, out of the box15:02
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, ok, now I'll create a new account -- before even log in as admin15:06
alexsanderI have to turn off "validate_email" in order to get local emails working15:12
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, some results:15:28
alexsanderif I use an external email, the internal mailer tries to send, fails and then send the fail message to $g_return_path_email (an INTERNAL address in form username@server without dots)15:30
alexsanderif I use an internal email it fails without any message (a silence fail)15:30
alexsanderany hint?15:31
nuclear_eclipsealexsander: I don't think I can help you with that, sorry15:32
alexsandernuclear_eclipse, ok, thanks anyway15:32
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nuclear_eclipsealexsander: my only suggestion is to ask on tha mantisbt-help mailing list15:33
paulripv6 is cool15:55
nuclear_eclipsepaulr: ipv6 is complicated :P16:16
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nuclear_eclipsewow, the "dogtag" usb key you get from the SC2 collectors edition is awesome :)16:23
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paulrnuclear_eclipse: well16:31
paulri've got a brilliant network setup atm for confusion16:31
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djSupportHowdy16:37
djSupportAM i right in thinking all the config options are not set by default and you have to add them manually after install?16:37
paulrevery config option is set to something16:47
paulrwhether it's set to what you want :)16:47
djSupportwhere do I find it?16:47
djSupportthe config16:48
djSupportin particular paulr sending of mails16:48
moto-moiconfig.defaults.php or something like that16:48
djSupportwell how it sendfs mails not what it sends16:48
* djSupport is a noob btw16:49
djSupportit appears when a user registered he didnt get a conformation/activation email16:50
moto-moijust look at config_defaults_inc.php ?16:51
moto-moiand the settings you don't like, just override them in config_inc.php16:51
djSupportaha so... it gets config from that ^^^ but will overide with whats in config_inc.php16:52
moto-moiyep16:52
djSupportmoto-moi: thanks I'll have a little look even though I aint got a clue what to change :D16:53
moto-moiI'm guessing PHPMAILER_METHOD_MAIL :)16:53
moto-moijust grep for that in the defaults file ;)16:54
djSupportI assume sendmail is better?16:56
djSupportI think my 2500 strong phpbb forum uses sendmail and that works16:57
moto-moidepends on your setup :)16:57
moto-moiI use mail() for a 300.000+ user forum, but sendmail will work too :P16:57
* djSupport cringes looking at the massive config file17:00
djSupportmoto-moi: sendmail worked17:03
djSupport:D17:04
moto-moi:)17:04
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