Tuesday, 2010-08-03

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davidincWho is responsible for preparing and arranging the docbook for mantisbt????02:39
davidinchi02:39
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davidincnuclear_eclipse: Hi03:28
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thefakehi there, i've a question about the roadmap, specially versions: Hot to remove the release date "Scheduled For Release" like the Mantis Project did at it's own installation, do i really have to edit the source by my own?03:49
thefakefound it in an old ticket :) $g_show_roadmap_dates = OFF;03:56
thefakethx for03:56
thefakeaudience ;)03:56
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samtukehi, as I recall there used to be a feature allowing documents to be added to a mantis install, allowing users to view them. I can't see this link or configuration option in 1.2.1, has it been depreciated, or how do I use it? I'm referring to the old 'project documentation'06:08
samtukehas this been moved to a plugin?06:10
dhx_mit's still built in06:15
dhx_mbut it doesn't get used much by MantisBT users so it could be buggy/non-functional at the moment06:16
dhx_mit's a prime candidate for being cut out into a separate plugin06:16
dhx_msee config_defaults_inc.php for settings that control this feature on/off, etc06:16
samtukehmm, why was it removed, seems like a simple and useful feature?06:16
samtukethanks, ive found it there06:18
dhx_mit's not removed06:18
samtukeill re-enable it and see what happens06:18
dhx_myep06:18
samtukeOK, I mean, why was it disabled and not maintained06:18
dhx_mit's disabled by default like a lot of MantisBT features06:18
dhx_mand it's "not maintained" in the sense that few people (especially developers) seem to use the feature06:19
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samtukeOK, thanks for the info :)06:24
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nuclear_eclipsedavidinc: hi07:34
davidincnuclear_eclipse: hi07:34
nuclear_eclipseI wrote almost everything in the developer guide, but the admin guide is more or less a conversion of the old 1.0.x and 1.1.x manuals, and nobody is officially in charge of maintaining them... =\07:35
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davidincok07:40
dhx_mI heard there is an opening for "Official MantisBT Documentation Maintainer" with davidinc's name written all over it :p07:44
nuclear_eclipselol07:44
* nuclear_eclipse shakes davidinc's hand07:44
dhx_m... by force? :p07:45
davidincno pro07:45
davidinccool07:45
nuclear_eclipsedammit man, think of the *children*!07:45
nuclear_eclipsejust imagine all those classrooms full of innocent kids, crying because our manual is out of date... *you* can change that...07:46
davidinc*YOU* mean dhx_m07:47
dhx_mlol07:48
davidinclol07:48
nuclear_eclipseit was an all-inclusive "you"; I don't care who it is as long as it isn't me.. ;)07:48
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LFH_SPAHello08:07
LFH_SPAI am new in the mantis world08:07
LFH_SPAand I am facing some problems when i try to install it with SQL server08:08
LFH_SPAI am getting the folliwing error: Database query failed. Error received from database was #206: Conflicto de tipos de operandos: int es incompatible con text for the query: INSERT INTO mantis_config_table08:08
LFH_SPAI had applied the patchs especified in http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1074208:09
LFH_SPAbut they didn´t help08:09
LFH_SPAthe ecosystem is: Win XP, PHP 5.2, SQL Server 2005, Mantis 1.2.208:11
paulrdhx_m: yours :P08:11
dhx_mpaulr: yours :P get the Moodle DB layer working already :p08:12
dhx_mLFH_SPA: we have known issues with database upgrades when using MS SQL (perhaps other database types too) due to inconsistencies between database server SQL implementations08:14
paulrdhx_m: ahh I was gonna ask you about that08:14
dhx_mLFH_SPA: I suggest upgrading to 1.2.0, then 1.2.1 then 1.2.2 (don't skip versions)?08:14
paulrdhx_m: if we write our own layer based on the moodle code, it wouldn't be GPL right?08:14
dhx_mLFH_SPA: AFAIK I broke things in 1.2.1 by dropping some of our custom ADOdb hacks (hence why paulr palmed off this issue to me!)... I am ideally trying to get those patches accepted upstream where they belong08:15
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dhx_mpaulr: I suspect not... depending on just how much it is based08:16
paulrdo we need to support db2?08:17
dhx_mdo any developers use it? if not, then no... as no one will have any interest in maintaining that support08:18
dhx_mif a DB2 user wants to help maintain DB2 support then they can always add that support later08:18
dhx_mIMO anyway ;)08:18
LFH_SPAI am not upgradding08:19
LFH_SPAit´s a brand new installation08:19
dhx_mbrand new database? :o08:20
LFH_SPADHX_M: What should I do? Install teh 1.2.0 version?08:20
dhx_mprobably, yes08:20
dhx_mthen upgrade 1.2.0 to 1.2.208:20
dhx_mat least until we fix things up08:20
LFH_SPAok08:20
LFH_SPAthanks for your help08:20
LFH_SPAI will do it and let you know08:21
dhx_mno problem, let me know how you go08:21
LFH_SPAby the way08:22
LFH_SPAwhere is the 1.2.0 version available08:22
dhx_msourceforge should have it08:23
LFH_SPAI took a look and the 1.2.2 is the only stable one available08:23
LFH_SPAok08:23
LFH_SPAok08:24
LFH_SPAthanks08:24
LFH_SPAbye08:24
dhx_msounds like you have to go urgently? cya08:25
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nkjhi everyone09:22
nkji just setup v1.2.2 on my server09:22
nkjhowever, i'm having trouble getting any new accounts created.09:22
nkjeverytime i get the new account link (to set the password for the first time) after filling out the form I get the error #280009:23
nkj"Invalid form security token. Did you submit the form twice by accident?"09:23
nkjwhich I didn't09:23
nkjsame thing happens when I try to submit the 'lost password' form, i enter my username and email address, and click submit - and get the error #280009:24
nkjseems to be happening with any form submission  at all09:25
nkji don't see any errors in the apache log files09:26
nkjdoes anyone have any ideas as to what this might be?09:26
nkjsearching on google has come up with no relevant, up to date, info on the problem09:27
nkjapparently people have had similar issues, but nothing related to simply trying to activate an account in the first place.09:27
nkjand most issues i found on google were reported & fixed/resolved on the 1.1.x branch up to 2 years ago.09:28
nkjwhich makes me think this has got to be a configuration issue, just not sure where to start looking.09:28
nkjas I'm not sure how mantisBT decides that error #2800 is what it should display09:29
nkji could reverse engineer it, but my time is very limited and so I thought I'd ask for help/advice/tips/clues here first.09:30
nuclear_eclipsenkj: is there a proxy server between your machine and the mantis server?09:33
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nkjnuclear_eclipse: the server is on the rackspace cloud, but i dont think there is any proxying going on09:34
nuclear_eclipsenkj: ah, it sounds like the server's aren't correctly sharing your session data09:35
nkjnuclear_eclipse: i had the default ubuntu package installed first (1.1.8 i believe) but removed it and installed 1.2.2 from tarball.09:35
nkjthe ubuntu package seemed to work fine.09:36
nkjnuclear_eclipse: so far, it's just running on one server09:36
nuclear_eclipseoh09:36
nkjthe dev server is solo09:36
nuclear_eclipsewell, you can disable form security protection, but do note that it opens a potential attack vector against administrators: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-site_request_forgery09:37
nuclear_eclipseubuntu may have disabled it by default, or maybe they are using a patched version of 1.1.x of some sort09:37
nkjnuclear_eclipse: that exploit is only possible from an already trusted user, correct?09:39
nuclear_eclipseno09:39
nkjfrom someone with no account at all?09:39
nkjah09:39
nkji think i get it09:40
nkjhmm, well - i will have the site protected behind http auth as well09:40
nkjso i think it should be ok09:40
nuclear_eclipsea malicious person could post an <img> tag on a site that points to some form on your site, and anyone already logged into your site that views that <img> tag could unknowingly submit forms, like creating a new user, etc09:40
nkjright - hijacking the session cookie09:40
nuclear_eclipsenkj: the attack has to be specifically targetted against your site, so private sites at least are obscure enough to have a low chance of attack, but it's still possible09:41
nkjnuclear_eclipse: how do I disable the security protection>09:41
nkjis it g_session_validation?09:42
nuclear_eclipsethe main cause for problems with that protection is proxy servers (or even reverse proxy servers) that incorrectly cache pages and serve old versions with stale or invalid CSRF tokens09:42
nuclear_eclipseno09:42
nuclear_eclipse$g_form_security_validation = ON;09:42
nkjok09:43
nkjnuclear_eclipse: thanks, i'll give it a shot now09:44
nuclear_eclipseI'd imagine that rackspace cloud probably has a reverse proxy in front of their servers that's either ignoring the caching headers we send or something of the sort09:44
nkjthats very possible, this is my first time using them so i don't know how their systems are setup09:49
nkjnuclear_eclipse: that solved the problem, thanks - however now I've got a problem actually setting the new users password10:25
nkjwhen I enter the desired password, click submit, i don't get the error, it then redirects to the main login page... when I test the username/password i get the incorrect login error message10:26
nkj"Your account may be disabled or blocked or the username/password you entered is incorrect."10:26
nkjchecking in the DB, it looks like the password field for the user was not updated.10:26
nuclear_eclipsehate to say it, but it sounds like whatever underlying issue that caused the form security errors might be causing the same problem with the actual form submissions... =\10:27
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nkjhmmm10:28
nuclear_eclipsenkj: is php properly configured to store session data?10:28
nkjnuclear_eclipse: which setting in the php ini is required?10:30
nuclear_eclipsenkj: the entire [session] block (session.*) should looked over and configured to match your setup10:32
nuclear_eclipsespecifically, session.save_path needs to point somewhere that the webserver account has write access to10:32
nuclear_eclipseand session.use_cookies must be enabled10:32
nuclear_eclipsedepending on the situation, you may also need to update mantis' configuration options for cookies too10:33
nkjok i'll give it a look over10:37
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istvanbHi there11:55
istvanbThe question I have: is there any company deals with Mantis support officially?11:56
nuclear_eclipseistvanb: not that I know of11:57
istvanbhmm11:58
istvanbour IT has this concern that what if we have issues, how can we fix without support11:58
nuclear_eclipseistvanb: you can always request help from a mailing list, or you can find the problem and fix it yourself since it's open source...11:59
istvanboh yeah, I completely agree with you. In the other hand I understand the concerns of the IT as well, since if we have a major problem it would be nice to have a phone number where we can ask for help (and pay for them as well:)12:00
nuclear_eclipseistvanb: this is the best I can offer: http://www.mantisbt.org/consulting.php12:02
istvanbI have dropped a mail there 2 weeks ago when I went for vacation, but recieved no response :(12:02
nuclear_eclipseistvanb: I'm not sure where that mail goes to, so I unfortunately can't help you there12:03
istvanb:)12:04
istvanbits ok12:04
istvanbI am not really concerned about this, however for sure it would be great to have something like that!12:05
nuclear_eclipseyeah, I agree12:05
paulristvanb: you can pay me for support12:16
paulrif anything breaks12:17
paulri'll hit nuclear_eclipse on irc until he fixes it12:17
nuclear_eclipsepaulr: good luck, I already have a busy enough life... :P12:17
istvanbhaha :)12:19
istvanbfunny mate :)12:19
istvanbmy plan is to introduce Mantis, screw it then quit and make a support company :)12:19
istvanbnow I gotta go, but ttys guys12:20
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mantisbt_46530hi13:08
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Shakradhx_z: are you around today?15:36
ShakraI may have found another bug in bug_update.php.15:37
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paulrhe's sleeping16:02
paulr:)16:02
Shakraok no problem :) do you know when he's normally up and about?16:15
nuclear_eclipseShakra: he lives in Australia :P16:53
paulrhe said he wont be in tomorrow17:18
paulrso probably in 30 hours from now17:19
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killefizgiallu: is there a reason (except lack of time) why you haven't updated mantis in fedora to 1.2.x yet?18:26
nuclear_eclipsetsk tsk giallu, falling behind!18:28
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giallukillefiz, well. IIRC 1.2.0 was not that good and 1.2.1 had his share of issues as well (but yes, I also lacked time) ;)18:33
giallunow we have CVE-2010-280218:34
nuclear_eclipsegiallu: it's called bleeding edge for a reason ;018:34
giallunuclear_eclipse, well, no, 1.2.0 was supposed to be stable18:34
giallumaster is bleeding edge...18:34
nuclear_eclipsetis a joke buddy18:35
gialluoh sorry ;)18:35
nuclear_eclipseif we had kept 1.2.0 in the wings any longer it would have been born with grey hair and a wheelchair18:35
gialluanyway john, I don't also like to push 1.2 on older Fedora releases because of the manual steps involved18:36
nuclear_eclipseoh, I understand18:36
giallubut, I'd probably bite the bullet if we haven't a fix for the CVE18:36
nuclear_eclipsepackaging is difficult with all the restrictions distros put in place...18:36
nuclear_eclipsegiallu: btw, how the hell do CVE's get created/reported?18:36
giallunot sure, I just get notified by Red Hat/Fedora security team18:37
giallunuclear_eclipse, do you have a point for the commit fixing the issue?18:37
giallupointer even18:37
nuclear_eclipsehmm, sec18:38
nuclear_eclipsegiallu: it's related to bug 1195218:38
foobotBug 11952 - dhx - fixed - closed18:38
foobotArbitrary inline attachment rendering could lead to cross-domain scripting or other browser attacks - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1195218:38
nuclear_eclipsegiallu: http://git.mantisbt.org/?p=mantisbt.git;a=commitdiff;h=618f45ac57a45854fa96bcfd79f9f44dcdfcfab318:39
gialluanyway: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2010/q3/13618:39
giallulet's see, isn't fileinfo based detection only in 1.2.x?18:40
nuclear_eclipseI dunno, ask dhx :P18:41
gialluasking google instead...18:41
nuclear_eclipsehe said he apparently got a request from Red Hat to backport the issue to 1.1.x, so my guess is that it affects that too18:42
gialluuhm, I'm pretty sure FileInfo based detection was added later18:44
gialluand google agrees with me. now I'd need an 1.2.1 instance to test18:45
nuclear_eclipsegiallu: you can use my tracker at http://leetcode.net/mantis if you'd like...18:46
nuclear_eclipseI haven't gotten around to pulling the latest from git18:46
killefizgiallu: ok - let me know if you need any help with the update18:47
killefizI guess at least rawhide and probably f14 should be moved to 1.2.218:48
giallukillefiz, ok, I also prepared a semi decent spec with unbundled libs, but the transition to git is slowing me down a bit (need to learn the new workflow)18:48
killefizi haven't pushed any update with git yet either but it looks like being able to merge between releases is going to be a huge timesaver in the future18:50
nuclear_eclipsegiallu: that actually looks really nifty18:51
nuclear_eclipsegitolite is also pretty nifty18:51
nuclear_eclipsetempted to try and set that up on our git server at work18:51
gialluhttp://git.mantisbt.org/?p=mantisbt.git;a=commit;h=d85822de161fcede76fa54ce1f8081135387e8a518:54
giallukillefiz, well. I was always trying to keep branches in sync by copying the spec file. not sure if it will be faster18:56
gialluanyway18:56
paulrnuclear_eclipse: gitolite ?19:05
giallunuclear_eclipse, you don't enable showing of uploaded images right?19:13
paulrgiallu19:20
paulr<nuclear_eclipse> he said he apparently got a request from Red Hat to backport the issue to 1.1.x, so my guess is that it affects that too19:20
paulrdo we still support 1.1?19:20
gialluirrelevant19:20
gialluat least in this context19:20
paulrmm, ok19:20
giallubut I did not hear anything on the topic from other mantis devs19:21
giallutraditionally we stopped support of older stable releases19:21
giallualbeit with git it should be a bit easier to backport selected stuff19:21
paulrpretty sure dhx (as opposed to nuclear_eclipse) has said he'd like to move to a different version numbering scheme19:21
paulreven with git19:22
paulrhistorically there's been so much churn in source, you've got no chance :)19:22
gialluI'm not opposed to changes, just tell him to throw the proposal on the dev-list for those who can't be here all the time ;)19:23
nuclear_eclipsepaulr: gitolite is a repo/acl management system for git that supposedly allows you to have fine grained ACL setups similar to what you get with SVN19:23
nuclear_eclipseFedora has adopted it for their package development workflow19:24
gialluanyone with a IE handy?19:24
paulrgiallu: I think in principle, it was along lines of just use year.month for release or whatever19:24
* paulr has IE19:24
paulrnuclear_eclipse: ahh19:24
giallupaulr, can you click on the attachment here: http://leetcode.net/mantis/view.php?id=17019:25
nuclear_eclipsepaulr: I've told debian/ubuntu people that we'd at least support major security issues in 1.1.x19:25
nuclear_eclipseI also told them we might not make a full release of it, but we'd at least accept patches into our repo19:25
giallupaulr, what happens with IE there?19:26
paulrit offers me a file download of a 48byte file19:26
* paulr loads fiddler19:27
paulri'll just give you the headers19:27
nuclear_eclipsegiallu: if you need me to modify config somehow, let me know19:27
paulrX-Content-Type-Options: nosniff19:28
paulrContent-Disposition: filename="html_in_disguise.gif"19:28
nuclear_eclipseI think it's pretty much default configs for the most part19:28
paulrthat's got the x-content header in19:28
gialluuhm19:28
giallunuclear_eclipse, did you upgrade the tracker to 1.2.2?19:28
gialluI'm not sure what I should be looking at right now...19:29
nuclear_eclipseohh..19:30
nuclear_eclipseI forgot just how long that patch has been around...19:30
nuclear_eclipselemme checkout 1.2.1 for the site real quick19:30
paulrhttp://bugs.mantisforge.org/file_download.php?file_id=1&type=bug19:30
nuclear_eclipseok, it's at 1.2.1 now19:31
paulrContent-Type: image/gif19:31
paulrContent-Disposition: filename="html_in_disguise.gif"19:31
paulrIE just displays the text for me19:31
paulrno javascript alert19:31
paulrmaybe you need <html> etc at top of file19:32
nuclear_eclipsepaulr: it's only when you view the img inline in the page19:32
nuclear_eclipsegoing through file_download.php can't trigger it19:32
paulrhttp://bugs.mantisforge.org/view.php?id=119:33
paulrisn't that what that does?19:33
paulrimg alt="" style="border: 0; max-height:250px;" src="file_download.php?file_id=1&amp;type=bug" /><19:34
paulralthough that might be older then dhx's initial changes19:34
nuclear_eclipsetry again on my tracker, I checked out release-1.2.1 on it19:35
paulrurl19:36
nuclear_eclipsehttp://leetcode.net/mantis/view.php?id=17019:36
paulrnot getting a popup19:36
paulrahh19:36
paulrdo when i go to download the file19:36
paulrso i'd be inclined to think19:36
paulrthat dhx broke it19:37
paulrthen fixed19:37
paulrso it might be ok prior to 1.2.119:37
paulror prior to 1.2.019:37
paulrcan you checkout 1.2.0 onto it?19:37
giallunuclear_eclipse, paulr thanks for checking19:37
nuclear_eclipsedoes it only happen to IE?19:37
nuclear_eclipseor will Chrome repro it too?19:37
giallunuclear_eclipse, yeah FF looks ok19:37
gialludunno, I've chrome only on windows19:38
gialluwill check tomorrow19:38
giallunow I need some sleep...19:38
giallubye19:38
nuclear_eclipsebecause if I can reproduce it, I can use git-bisect to figure out exactly where it "broke"19:38
nuclear_eclipsecya giallu 19:38
giallunuclear_eclipse, have a look at the commit I linked before19:38
paulrnuclear_eclipse: I can probably tell you that ;p19:39
nuclear_eclipsegiallu: that was a merge commit?19:39
gialluseptember 8, 200919:39
gialluyeah merge a finfo branch19:39
nuclear_eclipseoh, that's when that feature first went in?19:39
gialluguess so19:40
giallutry a checkout of the previous commit19:40
nuclear_eclipseit's checked out on my tracker now19:41
paulrthink I need sleep too19:41
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nuclear_eclipseI just got the JS popup on that, but didn't with 1.2.1 checked out19:42
nuclear_eclipsegiallu: ping me tomorrow and I'll help you work this all out19:42
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