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| Segaja | hi. how can i add a targetversion to my mantis setup so i can set tickets on the roadmap? | 10:49 |
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| walsh_e | Hi looking for help on how to configure the default site path. what php file is it configured in? | 11:52 |
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| walsh_e | Mantis Bug Tracker - "Just Ask! | 12:12 |
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| daryn | walsh_e, look at config_defaults_inc.php for available configuration options. copy any options you want to change into config_inc.php and make the changes there. | 12:14 |
| daryn | i believe $g_path is what you're looking for | 12:15 |
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| walsh_e | is that the path to uploaded files/documents? | 12:30 |
| daryn | walsh_e, sorry I misunderstood the path you were looking for. the path folder for upload files is $g_absolute_path_default_upload_folder but I would recommend reviewing the other file upload settings | 12:35 |
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| walsh_e | thanks | 12:46 |
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| giallu | xhtml strict is a disease... | 13:18 |
| jreese | giallu: +1 | 13:19 |
| giallu | know what, I'm going HTML5 for manzen :) | 13:20 |
| jreese | so what is manzen? I saw that listed on github but never investigated | 13:20 |
| giallu | jreese, my experiment about porting mantis to Zend | 13:21 |
| giallu | right now, I'm trying to kill adodb | 13:22 |
| * daryn thought paulr almost had that done | 13:23 | |
| jreese | daryn: the problem is that paulr never actually gets to the point of sharing 95% of what he works on | 13:23 |
| daryn | hm...must have forgotten my sarcasm tags :) | 13:24 |
| jreese | he just keeps it all tucked away in his local branch and endlessly complains about every commit making it harder for him to merge his changes with latest | 13:24 |
| daryn | yup | 13:24 |
| jreese | ah, sorry, missed that | 13:24 |
| jreese | </rant> | 13:24 |
| giallu | jreese, that's why I'm doing it in my own fork :) | 13:25 |
| giallu | BTW, do you know if he's planning to use something like ezc instead? | 13:26 |
| daryn | pdo | 13:26 |
| giallu | ok, so we're doing our own abstraction layer | 13:26 |
| jreese | giallu: we have to if we're going to keep using the existing db schema definitions | 13:26 |
| giallu | sadly, I probably will not reach the point where I can prove it false | 13:27 |
| jreese | if we're not going to maintain that, then we need a well-documented wethod for transitioning to the new db schema, or well-documented upgrade steps of some sort | 13:27 |
| jreese | at this point, I honestly don't care what we end up with, just as long as there's a supported transition path | 13:28 |
| giallu | anyway, right now I'm just porting the current DB api to use Zend_Db | 13:28 |
| giallu | so nothing should change in schema | 13:28 |
| jreese | giallu: well, admin/schema.php and admin/install.php rely on adodb's datadict format | 13:29 |
| jreese | that's what I was referring too | 13:29 |
| jreese | to* | 13:29 |
| giallu | ah ok | 13:29 |
| giallu | yeah, that's an open issue | 13:29 |
| jreese | so either we need a new schema migration system on top of whatever new db layer we use, or something | 13:30 |
| daryn | giallu have you pushed updates to github with Zend_DB? | 13:30 |
| giallu | daryn, nope, still in flux | 13:32 |
| giallu | jreese, anyway, schema migration is hard | 13:32 |
| jreese | agreed | 13:32 |
| daryn | k. i'd be interested in seeing something sooner rather than later. tbh what i've seen of zend db i hated | 13:32 |
| jreese | I had to implement something with the web app I'm working on for my employer, and so I just used a bunch of nested dictionaries to define the changes, and translate that to activerecord calls | 13:33 |
| daryn | not that i have an alternative | 13:33 |
| giallu | daryn, yeah. it's lower level than a regular PRM | 13:33 |
| giallu | ORM even | 13:33 |
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| giallu | login_page.php including schema.php is fun... | 13:34 |
| jreese | giallu: yeah... | 13:34 |
| giallu | don't we say "remove the admin dir"? | 13:35 |
| jreese | hehe | 13:35 |
| jreese | contradiction is rampant | 13:35 |
| daryn | that would be fixed by moving to zend though | 13:35 |
| daryn | right? | 13:35 |
| daryn | i mean the point is that admin is in the web tree. with zend it would not be | 13:35 |
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| jreese | daryn: I guess he didn't care to answer that :P | 13:52 |
| daryn | :) | 13:53 |
| daryn | know anything about Doctrine? | 13:53 |
| jreese | I looked at it enough when researching my current project to go running from it screaming | 13:53 |
| daryn | hehe | 13:53 |
| daryn | why? | 13:53 |
| daryn | i haven't really looked but heard good things so i'd be interested in your view | 13:54 |
| jreese | from everything I saw, it looked way too heavy, and required way too much imo to be defined up front | 13:54 |
| jreese | eg, I didn't want to have to both define my SQL schema and be forced to use that for my data access models | 13:54 |
| jreese | but then again, I'm pretty biased against ORM in general | 13:56 |
| daryn | you're just pretty biased in general i think :D | 13:56 |
| jreese | I'd much rather write all my SQL queries, or use active record, rather than hoping my ORM knows how to properly generate models, and then hit a wall when it has no idea how to do anything complex that I need it to do, esp when it comes to queries with multiple joins | 13:57 |
| daryn | ic | 13:57 |
| jreese | it's the argument between explicit queries versus implicit queries | 13:58 |
| daryn | it sounds as though it would be a royal pain for filters | 13:59 |
| jreese | I was actually able to implement imo a really elegant filtering system in about 1/20th the code used by mantis | 14:00 |
| daryn | i don't doubt that...just eliminating duplication without any refactoring would probably cut it in half | 14:01 |
| jreese | it requires each model to define a structured array with all the filters, eg, data type, column name, if it's a join on a different table, etc | 14:01 |
| jreese | it's only 300 lines of code to save and load filters, generate the database queries for total count and current page of results | 14:03 |
| daryn | so...are you pushing it to mantis? | 14:03 |
| jreese | and that 300 lines of code works for everything in our system just by having the data model define a simple structured array | 14:03 |
| jreese | oh, no, it's all written for CI's active record system, and was written for an in-house project | 14:04 |
| jreese | so not at all shareable | 14:04 |
| jreese | I haven't worked on anything in mantis core for months I think, most of my small amount of work has been on fixing and improving my plugins | 14:05 |
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| daryn | sounds somewhat similar to the direction I intended to take mine after I realized it was still too complicated | 14:05 |
| daryn | then i got sidetracked | 14:06 |
| daryn | just call me paul | 14:06 |
| jreese | I would love to open source the filter code, but the problem with working for a huge megacorp, esp when working on the information security team, is that everyone is paranoid :P | 14:07 |
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