Tuesday, 2011-07-26

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GitHub164[mantisbt] rombert pushed 2 new commits to master-1.2.x: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/compare/c9ade3d...eaab60f03:23
GitHub164[mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Added 1.2.6 release notes. - Robert Munteanu03:23
GitHub164[mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Release notes: point to GitHub instead of MantisForge - Robert Munteanu03:23
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dhx1dregad: hi :)03:31
dregadhi David03:32
dregadtaking advantage of working from home today to connect to irc (blocked @ work)03:34
dhx1:)03:36
dhx1good commits in the past few days03:36
dhx1apologies for not responding to review requests, have been away03:36
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asm89anyone seen my question from yesterday? i guess it got buried in all the join/leave notices before i left :P03:49
asm89asm89   anyone familiar with functionality like: @username and getting notified?03:49
asm89asm89   in the comments/notes of mantis tickets?03:49
dhx1asm89: sounds like a good feature... although I didn't know it existed?03:50
asm89it was a question :P03:50
asm89but i'd like the functionality03:50
asm89like the @ mentions on github03:50
dhx1indeed03:50
asm89maybe a plugin could do this?03:53
dregad@dhx: thanks and no worries. away for vacation or what?04:04
dhx1asm89: yeah, perhaps04:04
dhx1dregad: yep04:04
dregadif you got a minute, can you have a quick look at #1313704:04
asm89i'm only a bit familiar with the mantis codebase04:06
asm89but a plugin can hook into certain events?04:06
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dregadadm89: exactly04:10
asm89ah cool, then it shouldn't be that hard04:12
dregadyou can find some basic documentation on plugins and events in the developer's guide04:14
dregadhttp://www.mantisbt.org/development.php04:14
dregadif you feel that some hooks are missing for your needs, write to the mailing list04:14
dregadand if you do end up writing a plug-in, consider hosting it on github - we have an organization for that purpose. again, write to the ML to request creation of git repository04:15
asm89i contributed cgit integration for the source integration before :) if i find time for the plugin i'll write it and put it on github indeed! :)04:20
asm89and i'm idling on this channel when i'm online :)04:21
dhx1:)04:31
dhx1I guess you'd take the bugnote test, use regular expression matching to retrieve instances of @{username} and then see if {username} exists04:32
asm89yes04:32
asm89shouldn't be that hard04:33
dhx1{ampersand}{any character, non-greedy matching}{space}04:33
asm89and showing it somewhere04:33
dhx1not ampersand... @ symbol ;)04:33
asm89#@([^ ]+)#04:33
dhx1yeah I think so... multi-line considerations taken into account too04:35
asm89and creating a view on the my_view page04:35
asm89multiline?04:35
asm89@dhx104:35
asm89:P04:35
asm89want that to match multiline too? :P04:35
dhx1not match across multiple lines, but find multiple matches in a single line, work on multi-line source data, etc04:36
dhx1should be OK as-is with PHP though04:36
asm89ah, yes04:36
asm89preg_match_all()04:36
asm89foreach match check that the user exists and notify04:36
dhx1once you've retrieved usernames you can call bug_monitor_add to add the user to the monitor list (if that's what you want to do)04:36
asm89hm04:36
dhx1or just add them to the notification list for the current instance04:37
dhx12nd option is best04:37
asm89i'd personally like to notify them of the specific comment04:37
dhx1yep04:37
asm89so one time only for that comment, they'll get notified04:37
dhx1yep04:37
dhx1the hard part is giving feedback to a user to let them know that they've picked a correct username in their bugnote message04:38
dhx1otherwise they'll be left guessing as to whether a user was notified or not... saying that, you could add an item in the issue history :)04:38
asm89hm04:38
asm89i don't know04:39
asm89i like that github just ignores non-existing name04:39
asm89s04:39
asm89and creates a link of the mention (to the user profile)04:39
dhx1yep, creating a link would provide feedback04:39
dhx1(after-the-fact)04:39
asm89that would be enough04:39
asm89i guess :)04:39
asm89cool04:39
dhx1yep04:39
asm89i'd also like to save the mentions04:40
dhx1better than not having this feature at all :)04:40
dhx1history_log_special I think04:40
asm89and showing them in my_view_page04:40
asm89hm :)04:40
dhx1it's something we need to improve... (history handling)04:40
asm89it doesn't have to show up in the bug history i guess04:40
dhx1history_api is worth a read anyway04:40
dhx1nope04:41
dhx1it can be inferred from reading through the comments as to whether someone was notified (their username is highlighted/is a link/etc)04:41
asm89indeed04:42
asm89but it would be nice to see it if you got mentioned04:43
dhx1that would be a separate page though?04:43
dhx1or on "My View"...04:43
asm89i guess my view+04:43
asm89+ = ?04:44
asm89or both04:44
dhx1to do either with any efficiency your plugin would need to create its own table cross-referencing bug notes and users04:44
dhx1it might be possible to use the history feature too04:45
dhx1but that strikes me as being a poor approach04:45
asm89yes me too04:49
asm89and a separate table would be more flexible i guess?04:49
dhx1yep04:49
dhx1but mostly it'd be needed for performance reasons04:50
asm89cool04:51
asm89not that hard to make, and i think it's a really nice feature04:51
asm89dhx1: is it ok if i save the log of our conversation for reference later on?04:51
dhx1asm89: yep, always, this is a public channel and I believe it's recorded anyway04:52
asm89ah ok, i thought that was against freenode guidelines unless clearly stated ;)04:54
asm89but nice, i'll store the log and keep you updated if i find time to work on it? :)04:54
dhx1asm89: oh, it might be... I just assume most channels are logged by bots04:55
dhx1thanks for asking though :)04:56
asm89no problem, thanks for thinking along :)04:57
dregadirc logs used to be archived here http://www.mantisforge.org/irclogs/ but it looks like the bot is dead :-/04:58
asm89for quite some time04:59
asm89mantis connect05:00
asm89that is a REST api for mantis?05:00
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dhx1not yet, there is SOAP and someone has created a JSON API (on Github, I haven't looked at it/tested it)05:03
asm89hm05:03
asm89but mantis connect is partly builtin the standard distribution?05:03
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dhx1hmm I think so05:05
dhx1Robert/Victor are the best people to ask05:05
asm89weird05:05
asm89i came across it a while ago05:05
asm89but you've got to buy mantisconnect, but it is shipped with the open source standard distribution ;P05:06
asm89ah well05:06
dhx1Robert maintains the SOAP API and the Eclipse plugin05:06
asm89ah ok05:08
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GitHub27[mantisbt] dregad pushed 1 new commit to master-1.2.x: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/commit/78dcda43494d22e770e55e85865aaf8e5a132f0606:27
GitHub27[mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Merge branch 'master-1.2.x' of https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt into 12x - Damien Regad06:27
GitHub46[mantisbt] dregad pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/commit/80231d23230fc1683c285e800889b5d970005f3f06:27
GitHub46[mantisbt/master] Updated CREDITS with current dev team - Damien Regad06:27
Paul94we should probably look at releasing 1.2.6 once we get branches merged06:30
Paul94and not before ;/06:30
Paul94or at least ensure config_defaults / db schema doesn't change in 1.2.606:30
dregadthat was just a concurrent update with robert06:30
dregadaffecting doc/CREDITS06:31
Paul94i've got a bunch of stuff locally based off the git.mantisbt.org stuff which will conflict with recent changes06:31
Paul94to the point where i'm currently thinking of finishing that off06:31
Paul94going through master and porting in06:32
Paul94and then sitting down with dhx to try to merge it into the 'next' structure06:32
Paul94[I also have 10 days off work now before I go on a cruise to do this]06:32
Paul94well, 10 days minus however long it takes to run ddrescue on a 150gb hdd of someone else, ntfs-3g, and copy06:33
Paul94:)06:33
dregadRobert seemed eager to release 1.2.6 asap06:34
dregadwhat kind of changes to you have pending06:34
dhx1agreed on an urgent 1.2.6 release06:34
dhx1I think most of Paul94's changes are for master/next?06:34
Paul94some is **future**06:34
Paul94but in general, I have stuff sitting around in various forms for:06:35
Paul94a) replacing adodb06:35
Paul94b) a similar version of what dhx has / is doing with exceptions in next [which will be fun]06:35
Paul94c) the rewritten ldap api I use at work, which really needs to go into trunk06:36
Paul94or well, probably needs some testing against changes, but yea06:36
Paul94[^^^ was from before 'ldap simulation' stuff, and the ldap simulation stuff is why it's not commited already, as I dont get the point]06:36
Paul94d) updated jquery+phpmailer+other libs06:36
dhx1Paul94: already updated jQuery the other day :)06:37
Paul94e) play with making a base MantisUser class that extends a mantiscacheable class that can do memcache caching06:37
Paul94dhx1: I did say it would be fun :P06:37
Paul94but if this stuff goes into next06:38
dregadPaul94: Maybe I can help with c)06:38
Paul94it's not a problem06:38
dhx1yeah put it in 'next'... which we'll merge into master once we've stabilised it06:38
dregadre: ldap simulation - very useful for me in testing06:38
Paul94dregad: I was trying to make the ldap api support multiple servers, fewer queries and loop around the AD/LDAP if needed06:39
Paul94personally, i'd rather we simulated an LDAP server config06:40
Paul94then had php code that might add hooks to simulate ldap06:40
Paul94for example, a config file for http://directory.apache.org/ - 'The Apache Directory Project provides directory solutions entirely written in Java. These include a directory server, which has been certified as LDAP v3 compliant'06:42
Paul94f) columns changes - which iirc were bug fixes for 1.2.x06:42
Paul94g) we should really finish/implement auth plugins06:42
dregadI don't really care how ldap is simulated, but it's important to have this functionality in an easy to setup and maintain way.06:43
dregaddefinitely agree with g) - see the message I sent this morning on a related topic06:44
Paul94dregad: http://git.mantisforge.org/w/mantisbt.git?a=shortlog;pg=206:48
Paul94if you look, I tend to do a bunch of stuff each august/july :P06:48
Paul94 f) columns changes - which iirc were bug fixes for 1.2.x06:49
Paul94[11:42.59] <Paul94> g) we should really finish/implement auth plugins06:49
Paul94[11:43.57] <dre06:49
Paul94[11:44.20] <dregad> definitely agree with g) - see the message I sent this morning on a related topic06:49
Paul94[11:48.47] <Paul94> dregad: http://git.mantisforge.org/w/mantisbt.git?a=shortlog;pg=206:49
Paul94[11:48.57] <Paul94> if you look, I tend to do a bunch of stuff each august/july :P06:49
Paul94[11:49.18] <Paul06:49
Paul94bah06:49
Paul94http://git.mantisforge.org/w/mantisbt.git?a=shortlog;pg=806:49
Paul94cool, I hate irc clients06:49
Paul94so at the moment, I plan on trying to tidy up what i've got sitting around06:50
Paul94and do stuff based on what I had as master aka a month ago06:50
Paul94then work out how to merge in a week06:50
dregadMostly sounds like 1.3.x stuff anyway - do you see any reason to delay 1.2.6 ?06:56
Paul94I think the main thing is make sure we dont have any config/db schema changes in 1.2.606:56
Paul94i.e. do we have any renamed/new config variables06:57
Paul94basically, what i'm thinking here is06:57
Paul94if someone's added something in last 2 months06:57
Paul94and then we dump/change it out in a week06:57
Paul94we then need to provide users a migration path06:58
Paul94also, i'd probably like to see if we can get to point we can do a 1.3.x alpha release in say a month06:59
dregadJust doing a diff 1.2.0..1.2.x on config_defaults_inc.php07:05
Paul94but yea, from memory, i think i'd moved to do more a case of "ldap_options = array( stuff);"07:05
dregadnew: g_default_category_for_moves, g_reassign_on_feedback07:05
Paul94as opposed to doing $g_ldap_option1, $g_ldap_option2 etc07:05
dregadthe rest is just changes to existing variables and comments07:05
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GitHub130[mantisbt] dregad pushed 1 new commit to master-1.2.x: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/commit/817a8341323378deb9a98f097eaca16766916afe08:12
GitHub130[mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Fix #11282: Oracle error ORA-00918 column ambiguously defined - Damien Regad08:12
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GitHub63[mantisbt] dregad pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/commit/0b3b459c7a0d0e92c99ea8e0798e9945ef4d05c708:13
GitHub63[mantisbt/master] Fix #11282: Oracle error ORA-00918 column ambiguously defined - Damien Regad08:13
Paul94I think that'll break mssql08:13
Paul94:P08:13
dregadI just tested it08:13
Paul94against mssql?08:14
Paul94or oracle08:14
dregadsorry08:14
dregadmysql08:14
Paul94:)08:14
dregadAND oracle08:14
dregadI don't have a mssql instance for testing08:14
dregadshould I revert ?08:14
Paul94probably irrelevant08:15
Paul94as well, 1.3 has different db layer08:15
Paul94so we need to even decide if as of 1.3 we support oracle08:15
Paul94and in 1.2.X whereever dhx replaced adodb+ourpatches with adodb, we broke mssql support anyway08:15
dhx1Paul94: heh08:19
Paul94well08:19
Paul94:)08:19
Paul94dregad: you could tell us how to install oracle :P08:20
dregadwell... there's a team of experienced Oracle DBAs at work :P08:21
Paul94mm you use mantis on oracle?08:21
dregadI tried in the beginning (1.2.1), but that was quite (too) complicated to get to work not too mentioned more difficult to manage08:22
Paul94personally08:22
Paul94i'd like to see mantis support08:22
Paul94a) mysql08:22
dregadso I gave up and use MySQL now08:22
Paul94b) postgres08:22
Paul94c) sqlsrv aka mssql08:22
Paul94d) sqlite08:22
dhx1PostgreSQL > *08:26
dhx1it actually supports a lot of the SQL:2008 standard!08:26
Paul94oh god08:27
dhx1MySQL sucks :P08:27
Paul94oh god08:27
Paul94;)08:27
dhx1MySQL: CHECK constraints... what are those?08:27
Paul94dregad: but yea08:27
Paul94most of the postgres/mssql/oracle ''database'' support bugs we know about08:27
Paul94and kinda fall into a 'ADODB is good, but' category08:27
dregadIf only all the rdbms would really follow ansi sql (and that includes older versions too), world would be so much simpler08:29
dregadone of my pet peeves is concatenation - || is the standard, in MySQL it's a binary OR :-/08:30
Paul94well, i'm currently wondering if I really want to attach a debugger to ffmpeg08:30
dhx1my idea to solve those issues is to write queries in the source code according to SQL:200808:34
dhx1and then perform query translation like we do languages08:34
dhx1therefore we'll have to rewrite a few queries for each database server by hand08:34
Paul94dhx1: btw08:34
dhx1where they don't conform to SQL:200808:35
Paul94I was thinking of in new db api08:35
asm89all the activity today :)08:35
dhx1PostgreSQL, MySQL and Oracle are OK afaik08:35
Paul94doing "select * from {user}" or something08:35
dhx1asm89: last two weeks even! :)08:35
Paul94and processing that table names out the string08:35
Paul94so we dont need to do db_get_table('user') all over the place08:35
dhx1Paul94: yep, that's what named parameters in PDO do for us :)08:35
asm89supporting multiple databases is tricky08:35
asm89ever looked at doctrine DBAL?08:36
Paul94erm08:36
Paul94asm89: yes08:36
Paul94dhx1: isn't that different kinda relaly? ;p08:36
dhx1ugh, abstraction that makes it *harder* to support more databases (the backend is massively complex)08:36
dhx1it's quick and easy to work with hand written queries, both with automated tools (grepping the source code, automatically executing queries against a database to make sure they all work with a database server)08:37
asm89hm08:38
Paul94dhx1: you can't use pdo params on table names directly08:38
Paul94that's unsupported08:38
asm89doctrine dbal works with sql08:38
Paul94i.e.  $stat = $dbh->prepare( 'select * from ?'); == wrong08:38
asm89it just makes sure that some things that are DBMS specific are handled well08:38
dhx1does it use PDO?08:39
asm89yes08:39
asm89it's quite nice08:39
Paul94asm89: it doesn't do everything we need last I looked08:39
Paul94and some of the issues we had to work around in adodb existed in doctrine08:39
Paul94there's two 'bits'08:40
Paul94a) using the db08:40
Paul94b) schmea update/creation08:40
Paul94most things do A08:40
Paul94and attempted to do B in some way08:40
asm89i'm not familiar with adodb08:40
asm89what was the last time you checked?08:40
dhx1I'm not seeing how DBAL 2.1 helps us (from their reference guide)08:41
asm89then it probably won't :)08:42
dhx1it adds schema abstraction08:42
dhx1but the rest just seems like a direct pass-through to PDO?08:42
asm89i just asked because you were talking about supporting multiple dbmses08:43
dhx1sorry, didn't mean to discourage08:43
asm89dhx1: but most of the time problems come from the schema not being uniform08:43
asm89like date columns etc08:44
Paul94dhx1: oi, that's my job08:44
asm89but i may be wrong, i'm not that familiar with mantis (yet) ;)08:44
Paul94asm89: we generally moved date/times to 'ints' to avoid that08:44
Paul94although redhat being gay doesn't help with that08:44
asm89that's an option08:44
Paul94:)08:44
asm89:P08:44
dhx1Paul94: I'm going to move them back :P08:44
dhx1Paul94: just kidding ;)08:44
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asm89hehe08:46
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Paul94so peaceful now09:10
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GitHub144[mantisbt] jreese pushed 2 new commits to master-1.2.x: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/compare/817a834...48e7e7c09:25
GitHub144[mantisbt/master-1.2.x] 1.2.x Documentation update for Authentication - Damien Regad09:25
GitHub144[mantisbt/master-1.2.x] xref tags don't render well in docbook/sgml - John Reese09:25
GitHub140[mantisbt] jreese pushed 2 new commits to master-1.2.x: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/compare/48e7e7c...89738d509:40
GitHub140[mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Updated release notes - John Reese09:40
GitHub140[mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Bump - John Reese09:40
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GitHub150[mantisbt] rombert pushed 3 new commits to master-1.2.x: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/compare/89738d5...263d76012:48
GitHub150[mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Bugnote API: allow skipping of history event logging when adding notes - Robert Munteanu12:48
GitHub150[mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Extract attachment copy logic into file_copy_attachments - Robert Munteanu12:48
GitHub150[mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Bug cloning: allow copying of notes and attachments from parent bug - Robert Munteanu12:48
GitHub114[mantisbt] rombert pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/compare/0b3b459...e39645d12:49
GitHub114[mantisbt/master] Bugnote API: allow skipping of history event logging when adding notes - Robert Munteanu12:49
GitHub114[mantisbt/master] Extract attachment copy logic into file_copy_attachments - Robert Munteanu12:49
GitHub114[mantisbt/master] Bug cloning: allow copying of notes and attachments from parent bug - Robert Munteanu12:49
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drspriteI've done a bit of rtfm'ing, and can't quite figure out how to get Mantis to email me (administrator) new issues. Thoughts?17:39
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thraxisp'evening20:01
jreesehi glenn20:03
jreeselong time no see20:03
thraxispA lot has happened in the last 8 months. I'm in Waterloo, Canada now with a new job.20:04
jreesecongrats? :P20:04
jreeseis that good news?20:04
thraxispYes. Working for a company does ease the stress a bit. The work is about the same, but a little more focussed on embedded and systems design.20:06
jreeseah, cool20:06
jreesehow's Canadia?20:06
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thraxispDoing fine. We have the same lack of rain problem as you have.20:07
jreesehehe20:07
thraxispI have more spare time now as well.20:07
Paul94gn20:08
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thraxispI was reading some of the old email and was going to wade in on the next generation issue.20:10
jreesegood luck =\20:10

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