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GitHub164 | [mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Added 1.2.6 release notes. - Robert Munteanu | 03:23 |
GitHub164 | [mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Release notes: point to GitHub instead of MantisForge - Robert Munteanu | 03:23 |
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dhx1 | dregad: hi :) | 03:31 |
dregad | hi David | 03:32 |
dregad | taking advantage of working from home today to connect to irc (blocked @ work) | 03:34 |
dhx1 | :) | 03:36 |
dhx1 | good commits in the past few days | 03:36 |
dhx1 | apologies for not responding to review requests, have been away | 03:36 |
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asm89 | anyone seen my question from yesterday? i guess it got buried in all the join/leave notices before i left :P | 03:49 |
asm89 | asm89 anyone familiar with functionality like: @username and getting notified? | 03:49 |
asm89 | asm89 in the comments/notes of mantis tickets? | 03:49 |
dhx1 | asm89: sounds like a good feature... although I didn't know it existed? | 03:50 |
asm89 | it was a question :P | 03:50 |
asm89 | but i'd like the functionality | 03:50 |
asm89 | like the @ mentions on github | 03:50 |
dhx1 | indeed | 03:50 |
asm89 | maybe a plugin could do this? | 03:53 |
dregad | @dhx: thanks and no worries. away for vacation or what? | 04:04 |
dhx1 | asm89: yeah, perhaps | 04:04 |
dhx1 | dregad: yep | 04:04 |
dregad | if you got a minute, can you have a quick look at #13137 | 04:04 |
asm89 | i'm only a bit familiar with the mantis codebase | 04:06 |
asm89 | but a plugin can hook into certain events? | 04:06 |
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dregad | adm89: exactly | 04:10 |
asm89 | ah cool, then it shouldn't be that hard | 04:12 |
dregad | you can find some basic documentation on plugins and events in the developer's guide | 04:14 |
dregad | http://www.mantisbt.org/development.php | 04:14 |
dregad | if you feel that some hooks are missing for your needs, write to the mailing list | 04:14 |
dregad | and if you do end up writing a plug-in, consider hosting it on github - we have an organization for that purpose. again, write to the ML to request creation of git repository | 04:15 |
asm89 | i contributed cgit integration for the source integration before :) if i find time for the plugin i'll write it and put it on github indeed! :) | 04:20 |
asm89 | and i'm idling on this channel when i'm online :) | 04:21 |
dhx1 | :) | 04:31 |
dhx1 | I guess you'd take the bugnote test, use regular expression matching to retrieve instances of @{username} and then see if {username} exists | 04:32 |
asm89 | yes | 04:32 |
asm89 | shouldn't be that hard | 04:33 |
dhx1 | {ampersand}{any character, non-greedy matching}{space} | 04:33 |
asm89 | and showing it somewhere | 04:33 |
dhx1 | not ampersand... @ symbol ;) | 04:33 |
asm89 | #@([^ ]+)# | 04:33 |
dhx1 | yeah I think so... multi-line considerations taken into account too | 04:35 |
asm89 | and creating a view on the my_view page | 04:35 |
asm89 | multiline? | 04:35 |
asm89 | @dhx1 | 04:35 |
asm89 | :P | 04:35 |
asm89 | want that to match multiline too? :P | 04:35 |
dhx1 | not match across multiple lines, but find multiple matches in a single line, work on multi-line source data, etc | 04:36 |
dhx1 | should be OK as-is with PHP though | 04:36 |
asm89 | ah, yes | 04:36 |
asm89 | preg_match_all() | 04:36 |
asm89 | foreach match check that the user exists and notify | 04:36 |
dhx1 | once you've retrieved usernames you can call bug_monitor_add to add the user to the monitor list (if that's what you want to do) | 04:36 |
asm89 | hm | 04:36 |
dhx1 | or just add them to the notification list for the current instance | 04:37 |
dhx1 | 2nd option is best | 04:37 |
asm89 | i'd personally like to notify them of the specific comment | 04:37 |
dhx1 | yep | 04:37 |
asm89 | so one time only for that comment, they'll get notified | 04:37 |
dhx1 | yep | 04:37 |
dhx1 | the hard part is giving feedback to a user to let them know that they've picked a correct username in their bugnote message | 04:38 |
dhx1 | otherwise they'll be left guessing as to whether a user was notified or not... saying that, you could add an item in the issue history :) | 04:38 |
asm89 | hm | 04:38 |
asm89 | i don't know | 04:39 |
asm89 | i like that github just ignores non-existing name | 04:39 |
asm89 | s | 04:39 |
asm89 | and creates a link of the mention (to the user profile) | 04:39 |
dhx1 | yep, creating a link would provide feedback | 04:39 |
dhx1 | (after-the-fact) | 04:39 |
asm89 | that would be enough | 04:39 |
asm89 | i guess :) | 04:39 |
asm89 | cool | 04:39 |
dhx1 | yep | 04:39 |
asm89 | i'd also like to save the mentions | 04:40 |
dhx1 | better than not having this feature at all :) | 04:40 |
dhx1 | history_log_special I think | 04:40 |
asm89 | and showing them in my_view_page | 04:40 |
asm89 | hm :) | 04:40 |
dhx1 | it's something we need to improve... (history handling) | 04:40 |
asm89 | it doesn't have to show up in the bug history i guess | 04:40 |
dhx1 | history_api is worth a read anyway | 04:40 |
dhx1 | nope | 04:41 |
dhx1 | it can be inferred from reading through the comments as to whether someone was notified (their username is highlighted/is a link/etc) | 04:41 |
asm89 | indeed | 04:42 |
asm89 | but it would be nice to see it if you got mentioned | 04:43 |
dhx1 | that would be a separate page though? | 04:43 |
dhx1 | or on "My View"... | 04:43 |
asm89 | i guess my view+ | 04:43 |
asm89 | + = ? | 04:44 |
asm89 | or both | 04:44 |
dhx1 | to do either with any efficiency your plugin would need to create its own table cross-referencing bug notes and users | 04:44 |
dhx1 | it might be possible to use the history feature too | 04:45 |
dhx1 | but that strikes me as being a poor approach | 04:45 |
asm89 | yes me too | 04:49 |
asm89 | and a separate table would be more flexible i guess? | 04:49 |
dhx1 | yep | 04:49 |
dhx1 | but mostly it'd be needed for performance reasons | 04:50 |
asm89 | cool | 04:51 |
asm89 | not that hard to make, and i think it's a really nice feature | 04:51 |
asm89 | dhx1: is it ok if i save the log of our conversation for reference later on? | 04:51 |
dhx1 | asm89: yep, always, this is a public channel and I believe it's recorded anyway | 04:52 |
asm89 | ah ok, i thought that was against freenode guidelines unless clearly stated ;) | 04:54 |
asm89 | but nice, i'll store the log and keep you updated if i find time to work on it? :) | 04:54 |
dhx1 | asm89: oh, it might be... I just assume most channels are logged by bots | 04:55 |
dhx1 | thanks for asking though :) | 04:56 |
asm89 | no problem, thanks for thinking along :) | 04:57 |
dregad | irc logs used to be archived here http://www.mantisforge.org/irclogs/ but it looks like the bot is dead :-/ | 04:58 |
asm89 | for quite some time | 04:59 |
asm89 | mantis connect | 05:00 |
asm89 | that is a REST api for mantis? | 05:00 |
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dhx1 | not yet, there is SOAP and someone has created a JSON API (on Github, I haven't looked at it/tested it) | 05:03 |
asm89 | hm | 05:03 |
asm89 | but mantis connect is partly builtin the standard distribution? | 05:03 |
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dhx1 | hmm I think so | 05:05 |
dhx1 | Robert/Victor are the best people to ask | 05:05 |
asm89 | weird | 05:05 |
asm89 | i came across it a while ago | 05:05 |
asm89 | but you've got to buy mantisconnect, but it is shipped with the open source standard distribution ;P | 05:06 |
asm89 | ah well | 05:06 |
dhx1 | Robert maintains the SOAP API and the Eclipse plugin | 05:06 |
asm89 | ah ok | 05:08 |
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GitHub27 | [mantisbt] dregad pushed 1 new commit to master-1.2.x: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/commit/78dcda43494d22e770e55e85865aaf8e5a132f06 | 06:27 |
GitHub27 | [mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Merge branch 'master-1.2.x' of https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt into 12x - Damien Regad | 06:27 |
GitHub46 | [mantisbt] dregad pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/commit/80231d23230fc1683c285e800889b5d970005f3f | 06:27 |
GitHub46 | [mantisbt/master] Updated CREDITS with current dev team - Damien Regad | 06:27 |
Paul94 | we should probably look at releasing 1.2.6 once we get branches merged | 06:30 |
Paul94 | and not before ;/ | 06:30 |
Paul94 | or at least ensure config_defaults / db schema doesn't change in 1.2.6 | 06:30 |
dregad | that was just a concurrent update with robert | 06:30 |
dregad | affecting doc/CREDITS | 06:31 |
Paul94 | i've got a bunch of stuff locally based off the git.mantisbt.org stuff which will conflict with recent changes | 06:31 |
Paul94 | to the point where i'm currently thinking of finishing that off | 06:31 |
Paul94 | going through master and porting in | 06:32 |
Paul94 | and then sitting down with dhx to try to merge it into the 'next' structure | 06:32 |
Paul94 | [I also have 10 days off work now before I go on a cruise to do this] | 06:32 |
Paul94 | well, 10 days minus however long it takes to run ddrescue on a 150gb hdd of someone else, ntfs-3g, and copy | 06:33 |
Paul94 | :) | 06:33 |
dregad | Robert seemed eager to release 1.2.6 asap | 06:34 |
dregad | what kind of changes to you have pending | 06:34 |
dhx1 | agreed on an urgent 1.2.6 release | 06:34 |
dhx1 | I think most of Paul94's changes are for master/next? | 06:34 |
Paul94 | some is **future** | 06:34 |
Paul94 | but in general, I have stuff sitting around in various forms for: | 06:35 |
Paul94 | a) replacing adodb | 06:35 |
Paul94 | b) a similar version of what dhx has / is doing with exceptions in next [which will be fun] | 06:35 |
Paul94 | c) the rewritten ldap api I use at work, which really needs to go into trunk | 06:36 |
Paul94 | or well, probably needs some testing against changes, but yea | 06:36 |
Paul94 | [^^^ was from before 'ldap simulation' stuff, and the ldap simulation stuff is why it's not commited already, as I dont get the point] | 06:36 |
Paul94 | d) updated jquery+phpmailer+other libs | 06:36 |
dhx1 | Paul94: already updated jQuery the other day :) | 06:37 |
Paul94 | e) play with making a base MantisUser class that extends a mantiscacheable class that can do memcache caching | 06:37 |
Paul94 | dhx1: I did say it would be fun :P | 06:37 |
Paul94 | but if this stuff goes into next | 06:38 |
dregad | Paul94: Maybe I can help with c) | 06:38 |
Paul94 | it's not a problem | 06:38 |
dhx1 | yeah put it in 'next'... which we'll merge into master once we've stabilised it | 06:38 |
dregad | re: ldap simulation - very useful for me in testing | 06:38 |
Paul94 | dregad: I was trying to make the ldap api support multiple servers, fewer queries and loop around the AD/LDAP if needed | 06:39 |
Paul94 | personally, i'd rather we simulated an LDAP server config | 06:40 |
Paul94 | then had php code that might add hooks to simulate ldap | 06:40 |
Paul94 | for example, a config file for http://directory.apache.org/ - 'The Apache Directory Project provides directory solutions entirely written in Java. These include a directory server, which has been certified as LDAP v3 compliant' | 06:42 |
Paul94 | f) columns changes - which iirc were bug fixes for 1.2.x | 06:42 |
Paul94 | g) we should really finish/implement auth plugins | 06:42 |
dregad | I don't really care how ldap is simulated, but it's important to have this functionality in an easy to setup and maintain way. | 06:43 |
dregad | definitely agree with g) - see the message I sent this morning on a related topic | 06:44 |
Paul94 | dregad: http://git.mantisforge.org/w/mantisbt.git?a=shortlog;pg=2 | 06:48 |
Paul94 | if you look, I tend to do a bunch of stuff each august/july :P | 06:48 |
Paul94 | f) columns changes - which iirc were bug fixes for 1.2.x | 06:49 |
Paul94 | [11:42.59] <Paul94> g) we should really finish/implement auth plugins | 06:49 |
Paul94 | [11:43.57] <dre | 06:49 |
Paul94 | [11:44.20] <dregad> definitely agree with g) - see the message I sent this morning on a related topic | 06:49 |
Paul94 | [11:48.47] <Paul94> dregad: http://git.mantisforge.org/w/mantisbt.git?a=shortlog;pg=2 | 06:49 |
Paul94 | [11:48.57] <Paul94> if you look, I tend to do a bunch of stuff each august/july :P | 06:49 |
Paul94 | [11:49.18] <Paul | 06:49 |
Paul94 | bah | 06:49 |
Paul94 | http://git.mantisforge.org/w/mantisbt.git?a=shortlog;pg=8 | 06:49 |
Paul94 | cool, I hate irc clients | 06:49 |
Paul94 | so at the moment, I plan on trying to tidy up what i've got sitting around | 06:50 |
Paul94 | and do stuff based on what I had as master aka a month ago | 06:50 |
Paul94 | then work out how to merge in a week | 06:50 |
dregad | Mostly sounds like 1.3.x stuff anyway - do you see any reason to delay 1.2.6 ? | 06:56 |
Paul94 | I think the main thing is make sure we dont have any config/db schema changes in 1.2.6 | 06:56 |
Paul94 | i.e. do we have any renamed/new config variables | 06:57 |
Paul94 | basically, what i'm thinking here is | 06:57 |
Paul94 | if someone's added something in last 2 months | 06:57 |
Paul94 | and then we dump/change it out in a week | 06:57 |
Paul94 | we then need to provide users a migration path | 06:58 |
Paul94 | also, i'd probably like to see if we can get to point we can do a 1.3.x alpha release in say a month | 06:59 |
dregad | Just doing a diff 1.2.0..1.2.x on config_defaults_inc.php | 07:05 |
Paul94 | but yea, from memory, i think i'd moved to do more a case of "ldap_options = array( stuff);" | 07:05 |
dregad | new: g_default_category_for_moves, g_reassign_on_feedback | 07:05 |
Paul94 | as opposed to doing $g_ldap_option1, $g_ldap_option2 etc | 07:05 |
dregad | the rest is just changes to existing variables and comments | 07:05 |
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GitHub130 | [mantisbt] dregad pushed 1 new commit to master-1.2.x: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/commit/817a8341323378deb9a98f097eaca16766916afe | 08:12 |
GitHub130 | [mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Fix #11282: Oracle error ORA-00918 column ambiguously defined - Damien Regad | 08:12 |
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GitHub63 | [mantisbt] dregad pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/commit/0b3b459c7a0d0e92c99ea8e0798e9945ef4d05c7 | 08:13 |
GitHub63 | [mantisbt/master] Fix #11282: Oracle error ORA-00918 column ambiguously defined - Damien Regad | 08:13 |
Paul94 | I think that'll break mssql | 08:13 |
Paul94 | :P | 08:13 |
dregad | I just tested it | 08:13 |
Paul94 | against mssql? | 08:14 |
Paul94 | or oracle | 08:14 |
dregad | sorry | 08:14 |
dregad | mysql | 08:14 |
Paul94 | :) | 08:14 |
dregad | AND oracle | 08:14 |
dregad | I don't have a mssql instance for testing | 08:14 |
dregad | should I revert ? | 08:14 |
Paul94 | probably irrelevant | 08:15 |
Paul94 | as well, 1.3 has different db layer | 08:15 |
Paul94 | so we need to even decide if as of 1.3 we support oracle | 08:15 |
Paul94 | and in 1.2.X whereever dhx replaced adodb+ourpatches with adodb, we broke mssql support anyway | 08:15 |
dhx1 | Paul94: heh | 08:19 |
Paul94 | well | 08:19 |
Paul94 | :) | 08:19 |
Paul94 | dregad: you could tell us how to install oracle :P | 08:20 |
dregad | well... there's a team of experienced Oracle DBAs at work :P | 08:21 |
Paul94 | mm you use mantis on oracle? | 08:21 |
dregad | I tried in the beginning (1.2.1), but that was quite (too) complicated to get to work not too mentioned more difficult to manage | 08:22 |
Paul94 | personally | 08:22 |
Paul94 | i'd like to see mantis support | 08:22 |
Paul94 | a) mysql | 08:22 |
dregad | so I gave up and use MySQL now | 08:22 |
Paul94 | b) postgres | 08:22 |
Paul94 | c) sqlsrv aka mssql | 08:22 |
Paul94 | d) sqlite | 08:22 |
dhx1 | PostgreSQL > * | 08:26 |
dhx1 | it actually supports a lot of the SQL:2008 standard! | 08:26 |
Paul94 | oh god | 08:27 |
dhx1 | MySQL sucks :P | 08:27 |
Paul94 | oh god | 08:27 |
Paul94 | ;) | 08:27 |
dhx1 | MySQL: CHECK constraints... what are those? | 08:27 |
Paul94 | dregad: but yea | 08:27 |
Paul94 | most of the postgres/mssql/oracle ''database'' support bugs we know about | 08:27 |
Paul94 | and kinda fall into a 'ADODB is good, but' category | 08:27 |
dregad | If only all the rdbms would really follow ansi sql (and that includes older versions too), world would be so much simpler | 08:29 |
dregad | one of my pet peeves is concatenation - || is the standard, in MySQL it's a binary OR :-/ | 08:30 |
Paul94 | well, i'm currently wondering if I really want to attach a debugger to ffmpeg | 08:30 |
dhx1 | my idea to solve those issues is to write queries in the source code according to SQL:2008 | 08:34 |
dhx1 | and then perform query translation like we do languages | 08:34 |
dhx1 | therefore we'll have to rewrite a few queries for each database server by hand | 08:34 |
Paul94 | dhx1: btw | 08:34 |
dhx1 | where they don't conform to SQL:2008 | 08:35 |
Paul94 | I was thinking of in new db api | 08:35 |
asm89 | all the activity today :) | 08:35 |
dhx1 | PostgreSQL, MySQL and Oracle are OK afaik | 08:35 |
Paul94 | doing "select * from {user}" or something | 08:35 |
dhx1 | asm89: last two weeks even! :) | 08:35 |
Paul94 | and processing that table names out the string | 08:35 |
Paul94 | so we dont need to do db_get_table('user') all over the place | 08:35 |
dhx1 | Paul94: yep, that's what named parameters in PDO do for us :) | 08:35 |
asm89 | supporting multiple databases is tricky | 08:35 |
asm89 | ever looked at doctrine DBAL? | 08:36 |
Paul94 | erm | 08:36 |
Paul94 | asm89: yes | 08:36 |
Paul94 | dhx1: isn't that different kinda relaly? ;p | 08:36 |
dhx1 | ugh, abstraction that makes it *harder* to support more databases (the backend is massively complex) | 08:36 |
dhx1 | it's quick and easy to work with hand written queries, both with automated tools (grepping the source code, automatically executing queries against a database to make sure they all work with a database server) | 08:37 |
asm89 | hm | 08:38 |
Paul94 | dhx1: you can't use pdo params on table names directly | 08:38 |
Paul94 | that's unsupported | 08:38 |
asm89 | doctrine dbal works with sql | 08:38 |
Paul94 | i.e. $stat = $dbh->prepare( 'select * from ?'); == wrong | 08:38 |
asm89 | it just makes sure that some things that are DBMS specific are handled well | 08:38 |
dhx1 | does it use PDO? | 08:39 |
asm89 | yes | 08:39 |
asm89 | it's quite nice | 08:39 |
Paul94 | asm89: it doesn't do everything we need last I looked | 08:39 |
Paul94 | and some of the issues we had to work around in adodb existed in doctrine | 08:39 |
Paul94 | there's two 'bits' | 08:40 |
Paul94 | a) using the db | 08:40 |
Paul94 | b) schmea update/creation | 08:40 |
Paul94 | most things do A | 08:40 |
Paul94 | and attempted to do B in some way | 08:40 |
asm89 | i'm not familiar with adodb | 08:40 |
asm89 | what was the last time you checked? | 08:40 |
dhx1 | I'm not seeing how DBAL 2.1 helps us (from their reference guide) | 08:41 |
asm89 | then it probably won't :) | 08:42 |
dhx1 | it adds schema abstraction | 08:42 |
dhx1 | but the rest just seems like a direct pass-through to PDO? | 08:42 |
asm89 | i just asked because you were talking about supporting multiple dbmses | 08:43 |
dhx1 | sorry, didn't mean to discourage | 08:43 |
asm89 | dhx1: but most of the time problems come from the schema not being uniform | 08:43 |
asm89 | like date columns etc | 08:44 |
Paul94 | dhx1: oi, that's my job | 08:44 |
asm89 | but i may be wrong, i'm not that familiar with mantis (yet) ;) | 08:44 |
Paul94 | asm89: we generally moved date/times to 'ints' to avoid that | 08:44 |
Paul94 | although redhat being gay doesn't help with that | 08:44 |
asm89 | that's an option | 08:44 |
Paul94 | :) | 08:44 |
asm89 | :P | 08:44 |
dhx1 | Paul94: I'm going to move them back :P | 08:44 |
dhx1 | Paul94: just kidding ;) | 08:44 |
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asm89 | hehe | 08:46 |
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GitHub144 | [mantisbt] jreese pushed 2 new commits to master-1.2.x: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/compare/817a834...48e7e7c | 09:25 |
GitHub144 | [mantisbt/master-1.2.x] 1.2.x Documentation update for Authentication - Damien Regad | 09:25 |
GitHub144 | [mantisbt/master-1.2.x] xref tags don't render well in docbook/sgml - John Reese | 09:25 |
GitHub140 | [mantisbt] jreese pushed 2 new commits to master-1.2.x: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/compare/48e7e7c...89738d5 | 09:40 |
GitHub140 | [mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Updated release notes - John Reese | 09:40 |
GitHub140 | [mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Bump - John Reese | 09:40 |
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GitHub150 | [mantisbt] rombert pushed 3 new commits to master-1.2.x: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/compare/89738d5...263d760 | 12:48 |
GitHub150 | [mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Bugnote API: allow skipping of history event logging when adding notes - Robert Munteanu | 12:48 |
GitHub150 | [mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Extract attachment copy logic into file_copy_attachments - Robert Munteanu | 12:48 |
GitHub150 | [mantisbt/master-1.2.x] Bug cloning: allow copying of notes and attachments from parent bug - Robert Munteanu | 12:48 |
GitHub114 | [mantisbt] rombert pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/mantisbt/mantisbt/compare/0b3b459...e39645d | 12:49 |
GitHub114 | [mantisbt/master] Bugnote API: allow skipping of history event logging when adding notes - Robert Munteanu | 12:49 |
GitHub114 | [mantisbt/master] Extract attachment copy logic into file_copy_attachments - Robert Munteanu | 12:49 |
GitHub114 | [mantisbt/master] Bug cloning: allow copying of notes and attachments from parent bug - Robert Munteanu | 12:49 |
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drsprite | I've done a bit of rtfm'ing, and can't quite figure out how to get Mantis to email me (administrator) new issues. Thoughts? | 17:39 |
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thraxisp | 'evening | 20:01 |
jreese | hi glenn | 20:03 |
jreese | long time no see | 20:03 |
thraxisp | A lot has happened in the last 8 months. I'm in Waterloo, Canada now with a new job. | 20:04 |
jreese | congrats? :P | 20:04 |
jreese | is that good news? | 20:04 |
thraxisp | Yes. Working for a company does ease the stress a bit. The work is about the same, but a little more focussed on embedded and systems design. | 20:06 |
jreese | ah, cool | 20:06 |
jreese | how's Canadia? | 20:06 |
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thraxisp | Doing fine. We have the same lack of rain problem as you have. | 20:07 |
jreese | hehe | 20:07 |
thraxisp | I have more spare time now as well. | 20:07 |
Paul94 | gn | 20:08 |
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thraxisp | I was reading some of the old email and was going to wade in on the next generation issue. | 20:10 |
jreese | good luck =\ | 20:10 |
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