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| dhx1 | giallu: I noticed you backported some security patches to 1.1.x... there are actually 20+ XSS issues from towards the end of last year that haven't been backported (too time consuming) | 03:16 |
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| giallu | well. I can't upgrade released branches to 1.2 | 03:17 |
| giallu | and I react to bugs reports, those were reported in BZ | 03:17 |
| dhx1 | giallu: how long before they become unsupported? | 03:17 |
| giallu | Fedora. 13 months | 03:17 |
| dhx1 | from now? ugh | 03:18 |
| giallu | no, from release | 03:18 |
| giallu | so it means F12 goes EOL in 3 months (more or less) | 03:18 |
| dhx1 | F13 = MantisBT 1.2.x I assume? | 03:18 |
| giallu | dhx1, nope | 03:18 |
| giallu | when we released 1.2? | 03:19 |
| giallu | 1.2.0 I mean | 03:19 |
| giallu | IIRC it was near F13 timeframe | 03:19 |
| dhx1 | Feb 22nd | 03:19 |
| giallu | and I decided it was too risky to put there | 03:19 |
| giallu | right now, I did not change my mind on that ;) | 03:20 |
| giallu | so I'd need to push 1.2 to F14 (I'm a but late) | 03:20 |
| dhx1 | Hmmm so Fedora 13 is stuck with 1.1.8 until March next year? | 03:20 |
| giallu | basically | 03:20 |
| giallu | yes | 03:20 |
| giallu | but I guess DEbian folks are in the same (or worst) boat | 03:20 |
| dhx1 | yep, it's a big problem for both distros IMO | 03:21 |
| dhx1 | 1.1.8 => 1.2.0 is a giant leap in terms of security fixes | 03:21 |
| dhx1 | 1.3.0 will be another leap when X-Content-Security-Policy work is done | 03:22 |
| dhx1 | but at least 1.2.x is maintainable at the moment | 03:22 |
| dhx1 | (as it has been <1yr since 1.3.0 branched) | 03:22 |
| dhx1 | 1.2.0 branched many years ago | 03:22 |
| micahg | giallu: I would like to help the Debian maintainer get 1.2.x in, but haven't had time to look at the dbconfig related stuff which is the hold up | 03:36 |
| giallu | micahg, yeah. I know that's another major issue debian side (fortunately, I haven't that in Fedora ) | 03:37 |
| micahg | giallu: what's holding you back, time? | 03:38 |
| giallu | micahg, lately, yes. But also, I recognized the huge leap between 1.1 and 1.2 probably meant more security issues | 03:39 |
| giallu | and I actually avoided some of them | 03:39 |
| micahg | giallu: oh, I would've thought the opposite since it's actively maintained | 03:40 |
| giallu | micahg, well. yeah. the fixes were pretty fast, thanks to David and John mostly | 03:41 |
| dhx1 | yep I could probably find 30 or so XSS issues in 1.1.8... I actually gave up backporting when I realised how many there were | 03:42 |
| dhx1 | but that's not the only reason why 1.1.8 is a dud... I've added a number of extra security features in 1.2.x such as the HttpOnly cookie flag | 03:43 |
| dhx1 | which don't really fit into the backport-to-stable methodology | 03:43 |
| giallu | dhx1, I realize that. however, that's just more security. I'm just happy with "secure enough" unless I'm paid for the "more" part | 03:44 |
| giallu | :) | 03:44 |
| dhx1 | agreed, fixing the XSS issues is the primary concern | 03:44 |
| giallu | besides | 03:45 |
| giallu | I really need to work on unbundling libraries | 03:45 |
| giallu | which just hit me with nusoap :( | 03:45 |
| dhx1 | yeah libraries are a real pain | 03:45 |
| * micahg hopes for Natty I can get Mantis 1.2.x in | 03:51 | |
| giallu | micahg, see for instance https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620993 :) | 03:51 |
| micahg | giallu: yes, but isn't there an assumption that there are similar exploits for 1.1.x that no one is reporting? | 03:52 |
| dhx1 | example bugs: http://git.mantisbt.org/?p=mantisbt.git&a=search&h=refs%2Fheads%2Fmaster-1.2.x&st=commit&s=XSS | 03:53 |
| dhx1 | they won't backport nicely because much of 1.1.x was redesigned for 1.2.x | 03:54 |
| dhx1 | for instance, the view bug page is completely different in each version (as are the report, update, etc pages) | 03:54 |
| dhx1 | I prefer Gentoo's approach which allows them to add new upstream versions at will | 03:55 |
| dhx1 | but they may not mark them as stable | 03:55 |
| dhx1 | if there is a major security concern with the current stable version they can either mask it (to warn users and block installation of the package by default) or accelerate the timeframe to which an upgrade to the newer major version is done | 03:56 |
| dhx1 | I'm not sure if they do the former | 03:57 |
| micahg | dhx1: well, Ubuntu has the flexibility if support is impossible to upgrade | 04:00 |
| micahg | but it's best to backport if possible | 04:01 |
| dhx1 | the problem with long term support distributions (ie. an entire release is supported for X months) is that the maximum time between major upgrades of a package is 2X in worst case | 04:02 |
| dhx1 | (in the event that a major release is put out just after the distribution freeze) | 04:02 |
| dhx1 | and there usually isn't enough manpower to handle that extra workload of backporting unless you're RedHat and are paying people to do the backporting for you | 04:03 |
| dhx1 | (kernel, etc) | 04:03 |
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| micahg | dhx1: like we just missed 1.2 for Lucied | 04:05 |
| micahg | Lucid | 04:05 |
| dhx1 | micahg: at least that is only 1 year worst case | 04:06 |
| dhx1 | or are you referring to Ubuntu LTS? | 04:06 |
| micahg | dhx1: Lucid was the LTS, support till Apr 2013 | 04:06 |
| dhx1 | oh dear, poor Ubuntu LTS MantisBT users :p | 04:06 |
| micahg | dhx1: yes, well, when we get it in Natty, we can backport to Lucid | 04:07 |
| dhx1 | I see :) | 04:07 |
| micahg | but I have to get it so the Debian maintainer can continue doing most of the work since I'm very overloaded ATM | 04:08 |
| micahg | which means doing things the Debian way | 04:08 |
| micahg | which nuclear_eclipse does not like per se | 04:08 |
| dhx1 | I think the previous Debian maintainer gave up earlier this year? | 04:09 |
| dhx1 | maybe I'm thinking of a different distribution though | 04:09 |
| micahg | dhx1: nope, but there was a new maintainer | 04:10 |
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| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: check your mail. I send 2 patchs for product-matrix and source | 04:30 |
| kirillka | dhx1: hi | 04:30 |
| dhx1 | kirillka: hi | 04:30 |
| kirillka | dhx1: I see issue. this my event | 04:31 |
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| nuclear_eclipse | giallu: I'm here now | 09:21 |
| killefiz | giallu: any plans to update mantis in fedora? I can do the plain update if you want but IIRC you were working on a spec with split-libs? | 09:23 |
| giallu | nuclear_eclipse, I just wanted to know if you are keen to make a release with the fixes I pushed on 1.1.x | 09:25 |
| giallu | killefiz, working on that | 09:25 |
| giallu | killefiz, will start splitting nusoap | 09:26 |
| nuclear_eclipse | giallu: sure, is it time sensitive at all, or just when I get the chance? | 09:28 |
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| giallu | nuclear_eclipse, not time sensitive. I'd like to fix the stuff I've got reports downstream on bugzilla.redhat.com, that is, I still miss the nusoap fix | 09:29 |
| giallu | the rest I believe is fixed | 09:30 |
| nuclear_eclipse | giallu: just let me know when you're ready for me to cut the release, and I'll add it to my to-do list | 09:30 |
| killefiz | giallu: we do need to act on 633003 633011 and 634340 | 09:30 |
| giallu | killefiz, I fixed upstream (i.e. here) 003 and 340 | 09:31 |
| giallu | killefiz, see http://git.mantisbt.org/?p=mantisbt.git;a=log;h=refs/heads/master-1.1.x | 09:32 |
| nuclear_eclipse | dhx1: here? | 09:32 |
| nuclear_eclipse | dhx1: I have a bone to pick with your tag deletion patch... | 09:32 |
| dhx1 | nuclear_eclipse: hi | 09:32 |
| dhx1 | ref? | 09:33 |
| nuclear_eclipse | your commit reasoning is incorrect | 09:33 |
| nuclear_eclipse | e5ba672d6f7 | 09:33 |
| nuclear_eclipse | the user deleting a tag does *not* always have access to manage tags | 09:33 |
| killefiz | hmm - 634340 says "... fixed in 1.2.3" - ahh - you're planning to do another 1.1.x release - now I get it | 09:34 |
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| nuclear_eclipse | dhx1: oh wait | 09:35 |
| nuclear_eclipse | nvm, I must be remembering inccorectly :x | 09:35 |
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| nuclear_eclipse | well, yes/no | 09:35 |
| nuclear_eclipse | dhx1: I was thinking that users could delete tags they created via tag_edit_own_threshold, | 09:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | dhx1: foot in mouth, sorry for not checking up on it before saying something | 09:37 |
| dhx1 | I'm confused now :) | 09:37 |
| nuclear_eclipse | move along now, nothing to see here | 09:37 |
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| nuclear_eclipse | I didn't mean you giallu | 09:37 |
| dhx1 | :) | 09:40 |
| dhx1 | TODO: replace MantisGraph with jquery.flot | 09:41 |
| dhx1 | http://code.google.com/p/flot/ | 09:41 |
| dhx1 | like everything jQuery, it's so easy to use | 09:42 |
| dhx1 | there is a downside though, no static image generation | 09:42 |
| nuclear_eclipse | dhx1: in that case, I would propose you just add flot as the default option while still allowing users to switch to ezc or jpgraph | 09:43 |
| kirillka | dhx1: what about nation charset? | 09:43 |
| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: you right | 09:44 |
| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: Did you see patches? | 09:44 |
| dhx1 | kirillka: it renders captions/labels using the browser so full UTF8 support is included by default | 09:44 |
| dhx1 | kirillka: it actually uses the new HTML5 canvas element | 09:44 |
| nuclear_eclipse | kirillka: I have them in my inbox, but a bit busy atm | 09:44 |
| kirillka | dhx1: what's about support fonts, etc with national charset? | 09:44 |
| dhx1 | nuclear_eclipse: perhaps, but those are quite broken implementations at the moment | 09:45 |
| nuclear_eclipse | dhx1: even more reason to make it just another option to select from | 09:45 |
| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: ok. please write comments to mail for patches? | 09:45 |
| dhx1 | kirillka: http://people.iola.dk/olau/flot/examples/setting-options.html <=== shows the use of the Pi symbol | 09:45 |
| kirillka | dhx1: my users use IE 7 now | 09:45 |
| dhx1 | nuclear_eclipse: no, I meant ezC/JpGraph render badly at the moment :p | 09:45 |
| dhx1 | kirillka: yep so it won't work there | 09:46 |
| kirillka | dhx1: I send patch in dev list for Issue 12352 | 09:47 |
| nuclear_eclipse | dhx1: canvas would render bad in most of the browsers people use where I work, too ;0 | 09:47 |
| dhx1 | kirillka: sounds good, I'll look out for it | 09:47 |
| dhx1 | nuclear_eclipse: it looks nice/renders very quickly in Chromium 7 nightly :) | 09:48 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I'm sure it does | 09:48 |
| nuclear_eclipse | but 99% of users aren't running unstable branch of Chrome ;) | 09:48 |
| dhx1 | a graph type that would be useful in mantis: http://people.iola.dk/olau/flot/examples/stacking.html | 09:48 |
| kirillka | dhx1: i don't sure this patch very nice for main concept of mantis structure, but it's work | 09:49 |
| dhx1 | also spark line charts @ http://omnipotent.net/jquery.sparkline/ could be nice | 09:49 |
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| nuclear_eclipse | kirillka: just looked at the patches, but I haven't made that change yet because it would break the ability to use those plugins on 1.2.x | 09:51 |
| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: one sec | 09:51 |
| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: yes. you right | 09:54 |
| nuclear_eclipse | kirillka: I'd planned to make those changes once 1.3 goes RC status | 09:55 |
| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: I already used short name, and don't think that 1.2.x don't support this. | 09:55 |
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| nuclear_eclipse | paulr_: kick your server | 12:43 |
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| pira_ | Hello everybody ! (excuse my english), Ok, I've been asked if it's possible in mantis > manage projects > edit a project > planning > add role, then 'Add user to project' .... to associate an 'Administrator' to the new role...? (Here I can't). I've looked arround, and I'm finally here asking you guys :) Thanks in advance ! | 12:51 |
| nuclear_eclipse | pira_: it should be possible as far as I know, what version are you using? | 12:52 |
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| pira_ | Hi nuclear_eclipse , ok we're running an old version like 1.04 !? | 12:58 |
| pira_ | I'm still looking for the version a minute please (It's a custom one...) | 12:58 |
| nuclear_eclipse | pira_: backup your site and data, and upgrade please :P | 12:58 |
| pira_ | Hey ... ! I would love to :) !! | 12:59 |
| nuclear_eclipse | 1.0.4 is out of date, even for the extremely out of date 1.0 branch :P | 12:59 |
| pira_ | But...at this time the developper added some feature and .... with an upgrade .... you know ! | 12:59 |
| nuclear_eclipse | pira_: good luck then :) | 13:00 |
| pira_ | Of course when I 'upgrade' the bug are still there, but...not all the features ! | 13:00 |
| pira_ | haha ! | 13:00 |
| nuclear_eclipse | unfortunately, I can't help you with 1.0.x | 13:01 |
| pira_ | Yep, I have a mission and I first wanted to upgrade in order to get the plugin manager working, but with the old work done on our version....was not possible | 13:01 |
| pira_ | In case of : is there a directive for this 'planning' roles !? | 13:02 |
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| pira_ | Ok I've my answer, or kind of ... http://www.mantisforge.org:8080/cruisecontrol/artifacts/mantisbt/20100802185453/phpxref/nav.html?_functions/index.html line 1035, WHERE u.access_level<" . db_param() .... So the admin can not be assigned to it, anyway, thanks nuclear_eclipse | 13:27 |
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| pira_ | Have a nice day | 14:00 |
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| phinney | Can anyone help me with the Source Control Integration 0.16.2 plugin using Mantis 1.2.3 please? | 15:15 |
| nuclear_eclipse | hi phinney | 15:16 |
| phinney | I *think* I have it configured right but when I check in files via TortoiseSVN nothing happens. | 15:16 |
| phinney | hi nuclear_eclipse | 15:16 |
| nuclear_eclipse | phinney: you need to either set up your svn post-commit hook, or a cronjob, to tell Mantis to pull in new data from the repository. | 15:16 |
| phinney | even though i have the plugin instaled? | 15:17 |
| nuclear_eclipse | yeah, the plugin only tells mantis how to pull data, it won't know when to pull data without something to tell it to do that | 15:17 |
| phinney | ok, so i should use post-commit.tmpl as the model right? | 15:18 |
| nuclear_eclipse | so you need to setup either a cronjob to do that on a regular time period, or use the example post-commit hook in the SourceSVN directory to set up your SVN repo to do it automaticall | 15:18 |
| phinney | URL="http://mymantisurl.com/plugin.php?page=Source/checkin" Do I need to modify "Source/checkin" at all? | 15:23 |
| nuclear_eclipse | shouldn't need to | 15:26 |
| nuclear_eclipse | the hook should pass all the needed info as part of the URL | 15:26 |
| phinney | so i used post-commit.tmpl as the model, changing the paths as needed, saved the file as post-commit in the same dir and nothing happened. | 15:28 |
| phinney | (bare with me, this is my first time working with both TortoiseSVN and Mantis other than as a user) | 15:29 |
| nuclear_eclipse | phinney: if you're using Linux/BSD/Mac, you need to set the post-commit file as executable (chmod +x post-commit), and also need to make sure that you have curl installed and in the system path | 15:30 |
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| phinney | so when i do which curl to get the curl dir, it returns /usr/bin/curl so in post-commit I should put CURL=/usr/bin/ ? | 15:34 |
| nuclear_eclipse | /usr/bin/curl | 15:34 |
| phinney | ok | 15:35 |
| nuclear_eclipse | phinney: also, look in /tmp/ for the log files that get created by the post-commit script; if they aren't getting created, then SVN probably isn't executing it at all | 15:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | phinney: post-commit hooks are always a pain to get set up, so don't feel bad :P | 15:36 |
| phinney | Is the PROJECT url the mantis project or the SVN project? | 15:39 |
| phinney | PROJECT name, not url | 15:40 |
| phinney | in post-commit | 15:40 |
| nuclear_eclipse | the name of the repo in mantis | 15:40 |
| phinney | Or is that the name that is listed when you click on the hyperlink Repositories? | 15:41 |
| nuclear_eclipse | yes | 15:41 |
| phinney | ahhh, that might be one issue i'm having ;) | 15:41 |
| phinney | ok, it doesn't seem to be loggin anything | 15:58 |
| nuclear_eclipse | phinney: you are making sure to copy the post-commit file into your SVN repo's hooks directory? :P | 16:01 |
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| nuclear_eclipse | paulr: kick your server | 16:02 |
| nuclear_eclipse | before I kick you | 16:02 |
| paulr | yea | 16:02 |
| paulr | I saw | 16:02 |
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| phinney | So now when I commit via TortoiseSVN I'm getting the following error....post-commit hook failed (exit code 255) with no output. | 16:16 |
| phinney | I went back and put the post-commit script into the hooks dir in my svn install | 16:17 |
| phinney | i'm using the post-commit.tmpl from mantisdir/plugins/SourceSVN has my example | 16:17 |
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| paulr | nuclear_eclipse: seen dhx today? | 17:06 |
| paulr | or daryun | 17:06 |
| daryn | hm...who's daryun? | 17:15 |
| giallu | lol | 17:18 |
| * daryn smiles | 17:18 | |
| paulr | hi darren | 17:20 |
| paulr | hi gianluca | 17:20 |
| daryn | paulr: you're just going all out today | 17:20 |
| paulr | nah, i'm not going anywhere | 17:20 |
| paulr | in for night now | 17:20 |
| paulr | I was out a chinese wedding yesterday though | 17:20 |
| paulr | thanks for asking :) | 17:20 |
| daryn | so what's up? | 17:21 |
| paulr | reading http://www.mantisforge.org/irclogs/%23mantishelp.2010-09-20.log.html atm | 17:22 |
| paulr | so | 17:22 |
| paulr | giallu | 17:22 |
| paulr | explain what redhat/debian do | 17:22 |
| paulr | to mantis | 17:22 |
| giallu | again? :P | 17:23 |
| paulr | yea | 17:25 |
| paulr | lets start with | 17:25 |
| paulr | what's natty? | 17:26 |
| daryn | code name for debian release | 17:26 |
| * giallu thinks is a Ubuntu one. | 17:31 | |
| giallu | but I don't really know anything about Ubuntu/Debian | 17:32 |
| daryn | you're probably right, it does sound very ubuntuish. i just saw it on debian lists. | 17:37 |
| giallu | Debian releases are named after toy story characters IIRC | 17:38 |
| nuclear_eclipse | Natty == 11.04 | 17:39 |
| paulr | how often do they do releases again | 17:39 |
| paulr | october and april? | 17:39 |
| nuclear_eclipse | 6 months | 17:39 |
| nuclear_eclipse | LTS every other april | 17:39 |
| paulr | so wait 9.04 is LTS? | 17:40 |
| paulr | then 11.04? | 17:40 |
| paulr | what about debian? | 17:40 |
| nuclear_eclipse | 10.04 was last LTS | 17:41 |
| nuclear_eclipse | debian = unpredictable | 17:41 |
| paulr | so 10.04 has 1.2.0? | 17:41 |
| nuclear_eclipse | no | 17:41 |
| paulr | wtf? | 17:41 |
| nuclear_eclipse | no ubuntu has 1.2 | 17:41 |
| paulr | OK | 17:41 |
| paulr | I dont want to know | 17:41 |
| nuclear_eclipse | the database changes are incompatible with the way debian does their package upgrade/database maintenance stuff | 17:41 |
| nuclear_eclipse | so they've chosen to stick with 1.1.x until they can reach some sort of conclusion | 17:42 |
| nuclear_eclipse | anywho, dinner time | 17:43 |
| paulr | cool | 17:43 |
| paulr | so ignoring debian | 17:43 |
| paulr | how does one get stuff into ubuntu | 17:43 |
| paulr | :) | 17:43 |
| paulr | giallu: and dare I ask what fedora do | 17:44 |
| paulr | when do they realise | 17:44 |
| paulr | erm | 17:44 |
| paulr | release | 17:44 |
| giallu | every 6 months, release N goes EOL when N+2 is released + 1 month | 17:46 |
| giallu | usually a bit later than ubuntu | 17:46 |
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| chmurli | hi | 18:00 |
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| paulr | right | 18:36 |
| paulr | I think I need to work out a time to come on to catch dhx | 18:36 |
| paulr | :) | 18:36 |
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