Sunday, 2010-09-19

dhx1@daryn: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20001112.html and http://www.useit.com/alertbox/mega-dropdown-menus.html00:00
daryninteresting00:03
dhx1it seems that it is better for us (usability wise) to just show static links without popup stuff hiding away extra menu items00:04
dhx1or if we do want to go the popup route, use big chunky slide out menus00:04
dhx1the MediaWiki sidebar can typically hold a lot of links00:04
dhx1but I'm not sure that is a good thing for us00:05
dhx1how often do uses on the "Manage User" page suddenly have the desire to jump to the Summary page showing the number of bugs closed in the last 7 days?00:05
daryni'm not sure why that would be there the configuration should only be for what exists now00:06
dhx1cases like that show that it may be detrimental to have huge all-inclusive menus00:06
darynand most users won't see that anyway as it's only for managers generally00:06
dhx1well MantisBT at the moment just has a very simple menu where you can switch between different sections of MantisBT... viewing bugs, reporting, managing the system, viewing reports, etc00:07
dhx1and once you switch sections you can drill down further00:07
darynyes, the default is that for sure. but start adding plugins with other functionality and the menu is a nightmare00:07
dhx1yep00:10
dhx1which is why we probably need to break it down into "areas"00:10
dhx1"Reporting", "Finding", "Managing", etc... very broad things00:10
dhx1although my idea for that seems to be shut down at http://www.useit.com/alertbox/tabs.html (don't use tabs for overall web site navigation, essentially)00:11
dhx1http://pixelhavenllc.com/tutorials/tabbed_navigation.php00:14
dhx1one example of where I was heading, but the animation/mouseover effects are really annoying00:15
darynyeah00:16
LadySerenadev tools are always funny, in my opinion00:26
dhx1yeah I constantly laugh at CVS :p00:27
LadySerenaie, the hudson hudson, the mantis mantis, the jira jira, bugzilla bugzilla, etc...00:27
dhx1jira jira sounds like an exotic tribal dance?00:28
dhx1daryn: also interesting, for redesigning the report bug screen: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/progressive-disclosure.html00:34
dhx1perhaps the user is first asked to enter keywords that describe the bug they're trying to report (or an area to text dump an error message)00:35
dhx1then they submit the form to the next page which attempts to find similar existing bugs (if nothing suitable is found they're redirected straight to the real report form)00:37
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dhx1nuclear_eclipse: told you all eyes are on MantisBT whenever there is a round of CVEs... http://bugspy.net/ picked up some 4+ year old issues I bumped today that aren't really security flaws07:58
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hardyNHCan "[MantisBT] Account registration" emails be disabled?08:05
hardyNH(to admins so I don't get notified whenever someone registers)08:06
moto-moijep, it can08:09
moto-moiBut I can't seem to remember from the top of my head where that setting is set08:09
moto-moisorry08:10
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atrolhardyNH: $g_notify_new_user_created_threshold_min = NOBODY;08:54
hardyNHatrol: do I have to change a file to update this or can I enter it on the Manage Confiugation > Set Confugurion Option screen?08:55
atrolI didn't try, but both should work09:00
atrolbe aware that you have to enter 100 instead of NOBODY when using the database configuration09:01
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